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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I did say I was surprised in the OP. Lol.

I am wondering why though. Hence the first word of the title being "Why".

Perhaps these are more desirable now as they are pre spectre + meltdown vulnerabilities?
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Surprised meaning too high or too low of a price at 50 bucks

These chips have no patches so they are more susceptible to attack, no bios patches, no micro code patches not that they don't need these patches = they do they use hyper threading and speculation...

Maybe if using win-10 or maybe linux might get a little patch there but that would just kill performance even more than just being a quad core.
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No hyperthreading. Maybe you are thinking of a different part.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...3-mhz-fsb.html

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Hi,
Four cores/ four threads ?

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Hi,
That I'm aware of that means it has HT ?
Otherwise why would it list 4 threads ?

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A product is worth what somebody is willing to pay. Funny that.
A product is worth what somebody well informed about it and general prices of similar goods is willing to pay.
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Hi,
That I'm aware of that means it has HT ?
Otherwise why would it list 4 threads ?
They do not have hyperthreading/SMT. No Core or Core 2 parts do.

They are listed as 4c/4t because they have the same number of logical and physical cores because they do not have any form of SMT.

They are also still vulnerable to Spectre and Meltdown, as those exploits only require speculative execution (at least on Intel's parts), not SMT.

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Hi,
That I'm aware of that means it has HT ?
Otherwise why would it list 4 threads ?
Intel's HT means two threads per core. Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

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For each processor core that is physically present, the operating system addresses two virtual (logical) cores and shares the workload between them when possible.

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Hi,
Core 2 quad, key words okay

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Funny I just checked to see what the price of Xeon X5492 were because of the Socket Mod and the cheapest is 90 bucks.

I've got 2 I should throw on fleabay.

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