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Starting a new intel build: Help!

It's time to upgrade boys.

I definitely want to go with intel. I am unsure of i5, i7, or i9.

I will be upgrading from a Quad Core 6600 and ddr 2 Ram ............

When I picked the Q6600 at the time, it was sort of the best bang for the buck. It has lasted me a decade now and I'm still using it. I no longer know which processor is the best bang for the buck. (NO AMD < Not interested. At all. Not even a little)

Also.......... I KNOW they make motherboards with 10 trillion bells and whistles. I DO NOT NEED all that. Bluetooth /wifi/ etc..... I don't need it. What I DO need is a SOLID motherboard by all accounts with decent (but maybe not the best) overclocking ability.

I currently have a Biostar Motherboard BTC 250 pro........ someone else mentioned they thought the ceiling on that board was an i7......

Last thing > To save $$, I have no issues really with buying used parts. HELP ME pick some parts guys. Ready to order.


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It's hard to make recommendations without knowing your budget.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
It's hard to make recommendations without knowing your budget.
That is a fair point but I need to explain something > Technically speaking, I have everything I need for the upgrade EXCEPT the CPU...... and if I want i9- which I am seriously considering, then I will need a different MOBO.

I just looked and saw I could get a a used i9-9900k for around $350 < no fan. I have fans. Not worried about fans. I have big ass coolers too, etc...... I have 8 gb of DDR 4 ram. SSD drives, bluetooth USB adaptor, etc........

IF I can get that i9-9900k for $350 > THAT is the one I will get. Unless somebody tells me there's a better one out there for cheaper........????

Now I need a solid motherboard to run the monster. Preferably a mobo without a lot of bells and whistles / just the basics.

I know there's mobo's out there that fit my needs, I just don't know what they are anymore. I KNOW I don't need the top of the line gaming Mobo, etc......I rarely play games. Also, I already have a 1060 GTX graphics card. Plenty powerful for my *CURRENT* needs.....

So all in all , I'm looking to do all this under $500. The cheaper the better. But I won't sacrifice perfomance. I WILL sacrifice stuff on the mobo like wifi capabiility, etc...... As long as I can plug a LAN line in there and have the fastest possible connection, I'm good.

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If you don't game, choosing Intel over AMD doesn't make a lot of sense. Intel is typically the choice people make when their primary use is gaming. If you're trying to spend under $500, I would recommend considering a build centered around an R5 3600 and either an existing B450 board like the Tomahawk MAX from MSI or an upcoming B550 board as those would easily run you under $500. If you're intent on sticking with Intel, your best option would be an i5-10600K and a Z490 motherboard like Aorus Elite from Gigabyte.

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If you would OC both CPU and RAM, the best choice for the price is a used MAXIMUS XI GENE. Or if you don't mind ITX, you can check MSI Z390i.

For 4 DIMM OC, at least you may want a used MAXIMUS XI HERO.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
If you don't game, choosing Intel over AMD doesn't make a lot of sense. Intel is typically the choice people make when their primary use is gaming. If you're trying to spend under $500, I would recommend considering a build centered around an R5 3600 and either an existing B450 board like the Tomahawk MAX from MSI or an upcoming B550 board as those would easily run you under $500. If you're intent on sticking with Intel, your best option would be an i5-10600K and a Z490 motherboard like Aorus Elite from Gigabyte.
Thanks for the response. I'm aware of the AMD lineup and their price points. I used to be an AMD guy. Had a Thunderbird chip. Still have it as a matter of fact. Lol. But then with this build I went intel quad core 6600 and 4gb of ram and seriously.........I've had it for a decade now. I've replaced the PSU twice and upgraded the GPU to the 1060. MOBO is Asus P5Q-Pro. Overclocks beautifully.

Other than that, I've done nothing to this PC and it's been fantastic but it's showing its age.

Saying I don't play games is not entirely true. It's mostly true. I keep up with PC games because I'm a big graphics guy. I like to see how advanced things are becoming and to be honest......the last decade, I have not been impressed by games. I mean, at all. We should be damn near photorealistic gaming now......and we're not close. So......... any "games" I would play would definitely be OFFLINE....... and games like First person shooters or older games like Sim City, Falcon 4.0, etc.

One game I DEFINITELY DO want to get and play is Red Dead Redemption 2 or whatever that was. Looked amazing and I'm sure the mod community will make it even better.

Bottom Line: I'm somewhat of an intel snob. I simply believe they are the better quality chips, less hassle, etc... but that's me. Do I NEED an I9-9900k? Hell no......... not for my needs. But what I want to accomplish NOW is WAAAY OVERKILL because I know that 5 yrs down the road as things progress and data gets bigger, etc......this new machine too will start to slow down and show it's age. I just believe sheer, raw ass power solves a lot of problems. I like to do video editing and such too...... 3d programs like Maya, etc...

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You list a bunch of reasons to go Zen, but don't want to consider it. You want sheer, raw power and you get that with AMD more than you do with Intel, especially at each price point. Intel is only superior in gaming specifically. Your Intel options really stress your budget because you really want to run at least 16 GB RAM these days.

I'm really glad you got a lot of longevity out of your Q6600, but the landscape is nowhere near what it was when the Q6600 was the budget king. No idea why you think graphics should be photorealistic. Rasterization can't accomplish that which is why Nvidia has been pushing for ray tracing. Traditional rendering methods were never going to get us there.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
You list a bunch of reasons to go Zen, but don't want to consider it. You want sheer, raw power and you get that with AMD more than you do with Intel, especially at each price point. Intel is only superior in gaming specifically. Your Intel options really stress your budget because you really want to run at least 16 GB RAM these days.

I'm really glad you got a lot of longevity out of your Q6600, but the landscape is nowhere near what it was when the Q6600 was the budget king. No idea why you think graphics should be photorealistic. Rasterization can't accomplish that which is why Nvidia has been pushing for ray tracing. Traditional rendering methods were never going to get us there.
Ok. So all this is happening real time. I'm learning from you. I just confirmed *IF* I went with intel it would be i9-9900k for two reasons. It pretty much destroys benchmarks and out of i5 and i7 the i9 is the only one with hyperthreading ......which brings me to two points:

9900k means a new mobo for me > which means you are correct. May as well look at AMD as well. If I was much more interested in 3d type stuff / deep fake videos of myself lol, etc..etc.... and producing stuff like that, would you still point me to AMD? (or even more so?) And can you help me understand the hyperthreading thing and how that would help......with anything. ?

Thank's you've been a very big help. Bouncing ideas.

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Also - I understand I may be flirting with the rules here - but I believe I said previously that I have no problem buying "used" parts. It's electronics. Like a light bulb. It works or it doesn't.

Having said that, I wouldn't have the first clue were to look for a reputable used electronics places that cater to use while not ripping us off either.

Not asking for links if not allowed.

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Your mobo is a 1151 mining board. It only supports ddr4 2400. That said if you want a i9-9900k and a new mobo and some decent ram....that's your choice. Are you gonna be able to get that for <$500 possibly, but it'll take some searching. Is it a wise choice....not really. RDR2 on a 1060.....it wont matter what CPU you have as a $100 cpu will get you the same performance.
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