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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-30-2020, 10:06 AM - Thread Starter
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Is my new i9 10900K actually locked or defective or something?

Hello folks,

I'm new here, but certainly no stranger to overclocking CPUs as I've been doing it since the mid 1990s.

So, I recently built up a brand new Intel i9 based gaming computer and have run into a very odd issue.

I chose the i9 10900K X-series processor to be sure it was an unlocked one that I could do some overclocking with. This is a miniITX build, so I chose the popular ASRock mini-ITX board H470M-ITX/ac for my motherboard.

The build went smoothly and it runs great and all, however even though this board and CPU are designed to be overclockable, and the BIOS even has an "OC Tweaking" section, there are absolutely no options to overclock anything, no CPU ratio multiplier options or anything!

This board uses the ASRock UEFI BIOS interface and it normally would have lots of options for CPU/Memory frequency/voltage settings. Of course I did lots of Googling before deciding to post on here, but I couldn't find anything on this issue as others don't seem to have this issue. I even found some videos of people instructing on how to OC on this board and they have all the OC options they need and are not present in my BIOS options.

Naturally, I then updated the BIOS to the current version to make sure it wasn't a version issue or something like that and did so successfully, but still no OC options exist!

So, then in desperation, I decided to try software overclocking; which is not something I prefer to do, but then found that even that is not possible as even programs like XTU have no overclocking options at all, everything is grayed out and it has a message at the top saying that my system does not support overclocking and suggests buying a "K" X-series processor, which obviously is what I already have, so that message makes no sense whatsoever.

So, at this point I'm simply baffled and have no clue why everything is acting like I have a locked down processor, which obviously is not the case.

Any help and or suggestions I could get on this perplexing situation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gamester42 View Post
Hello folks,

I'm new here, but certainly no stranger to overclocking CPUs as I've been doing it since the mid 1990s.

So, I recently built up a brand new Intel i9 based gaming computer and have run into a very odd issue.

I chose the i9 10900K X-series processor to be sure it was an unlocked one that I could do some overclocking with. This is a miniITX build, so I chose the popular ASRock mini-ITX board H470M-ITX/ac for my motherboard.

The build went smoothly and it runs great and all, however even though this board and CPU are designed to be overclockable, and the BIOS even has an "OC Tweaking" section, there are absolutely no options to overclock anything, no CPU ratio multiplier options or anything!

This board uses the ASRock UEFI BIOS interface and it normally would have lots of options for CPU/Memory frequency/voltage settings. Of course I did lots of Googling before deciding to post on here, but I couldn't find anything on this issue as others don't seem to have this issue. I even found some videos of people instructing on how to OC on this board and they have all the OC options they need and are not present in my BIOS options.

Naturally, I then updated the BIOS to the current version to make sure it wasn't a version issue or something like that and did so successfully, but still no OC options exist!

So, then in desperation, I decided to try software overclocking; which is not something I prefer to do, but then found that even that is not possible as even programs like XTU have no overclocking options at all, everything is grayed out and it has a message at the top saying that my system does not support overclocking and suggests buying a "K" X-series processor, which obviously is what I already have, so that message makes no sense whatsoever.

So, at this point I'm simply baffled and have no clue why everything is acting like I have a locked down processor, which obviously is not the case.

Any help and or suggestions I could get on this perplexing situation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
-Gamester42
You should have done your research before buying a worthless piece of crap motherboard.
Only Z series boards are overclockable. And Asrock is horrible this round also. You want a Z490 motherboard. And there is no such thing as an X-series consumer processor. X series are for HEDT.
If you want a good mini ITX Z490 motherboard, buy the MSI "Z490I" Unify https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z490I-UNIFY

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You need a Z-series motherboard to overclock with multiplier

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Quote: Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
You should have done your research before buying a worthless piece of crap motherboard.
Only Z series boards are overclockable. And Asrock is horrible this round also. You want a Z490 motherboard. And there is no such thing as an X-series consumer processor. X series are for HEDT.
If you want a good mini ITX Z490 motherboard, buy the MSI "Z490I" Unify https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z490I-UNIFY
Wow, really? I did do some research prior and it sounded like a good board and noticed that CyberPower uses it for most of their small mini-ITX builds.

Still though, this board does support OC normally, so I still think something is odd here.

Thanks for that feedback though and I would still be open to any feedback on things I could try on this board before making any hardware changes.

Thanks much
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lol, there's no feedback to give and nothing to try. if you want to OC you need a Z series chipset.

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the only thing you can do is increase the boost duration, which isn't OCing, it's just letting the CPU boost for longer.

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Ok, I get the drift here and really appreciate the so prompt responses from you good folks.

The main reason I built up this new computer was for heavy gaming and emulation, so I just wanted to get the most out of the processor. However, after turning on the few performance options that do exist on this board's BIOS, it does run around 5.0Ghz and at times gets up to about 5.3Ghz under load now, which is good and may be enough without overclocking actually. I won't be able to fully test it with gaming until my GPU comes in a couple days though.

I suppose I will do some extensive testing with these settings and see if it can run what I need it to and if not, then I can get a better board if needed at that point.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction kind folks
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Ok, I get the drift here and really appreciate the so prompt responses from you good folks.

The main reason I built up this new computer was for heavy gaming and emulation, so I just wanted to get the most out of the processor. However, after turning on the few performance options that do exist on this board's BIOS, it does run around 5.0Ghz and at times gets up to about 5.3Ghz under load now, which is good and may be enough without overclocking actually. I won't be able to fully test it with gaming until my GPU comes in a couple days though.

I suppose I will do some extensive testing with these settings and see if it can run what I need it to and if not, then I can get a better board if needed at that point.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction kind folks
You've had the board less than a month, right?
Just RMA it and explain it was a mistake and that you want to swap for a Z490I Unify.
Most companies will let you do that if you explain that you made a mistake and you do it politely. People can be very prone to persuasion if you do it discreetly.

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You've had the board less than a month, right?
Just RMA it and explain it was a mistake and that you want to swap for a Z490I Unify.
Most companies will let you do that if you explain that you made a mistake and you do it politely. People can be very prone to persuasion if you do it discreetly.
Yeah, I'll go that route if I need to.

Thanks again everyone.
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Well, I spent several hours last night doing some extensive testing with my current not so great ASRock board and it's really close to perform at the level I need it too, but not quite; so, I went ahead and ordered me a MSI MEG Z490I Unify board as I noticed that with my current board, certain apps, like my video editors, will push CPU to to my target 5.3Ghz, which is good; but maxes out at only 4.8Ghz when under heavy gaming/emulating for some reason, so I want to be able to just set it at 5.3GHz all the time, or maybe even a bit more since I have a good cooling setup :-)

A further justification to get the MSI board is that my memory is actually capable of 4000Mhz and is currently stuck on a max of 2933Mhz on this ASRock board. From the link that @Falkentyne sent me, the Z490I Unify should allow for the full 4000MHz memory wise too, correct?...

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Quote: Originally Posted by Gamester42 View Post
Well, I spent several hours last night doing some extensive testing with my current not so great ASRock board and it's really close to perform at the level I need it too, but not quite; so, I went ahead and ordered me a MSI MEG Z490I Unify board as I noticed that with my current board, certain apps, like my video editors, will push CPU to to my target 5.3Ghz, which is good; but maxes out at only 4.8Ghz when under heavy gaming/emulating for some reason, so I want to be able to just set it at 5.3GHz all the time, or maybe even a bit more since I have a good cooling setup :-)

A further justification to get the MSI board is that my memory is actually capable of 4000Mhz and is currently stuck on a max of 2933Mhz on this ASRock board. From the link that @Falkentyne sent me, the Z490I Unify should allow for the full 4000MHz memory wise too, correct?...

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Yes you will be able to run XMP, or manually overclock and tweak the memory with that very good Z board.
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