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how much additional CPU cooler height does the SFX psu give you over the ~80mm an ATX psu provides? in guessing depending on the conversion bracket maybe close to 95mm? would be great if you could measure that for me - looking at picking one up for a HTPC/light gamer rig with a short gtx960 and maybe an i5/cheap xeon.

Using a SFX psu in the jonsbo C2 would only give you an extra 10mm of space. The distance from the motherboard to the SFX psu is less than 100mm.

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Using a SFX psu in the jonsbo C2 would only give you an extra 10mm of space. The distance from the motherboard to the SFX psu is less than 100mm.

ohhhh i was looking at putting a Noctua NH-L12 in it, but i think 93mm might be very tight, unless i reduce it by using a thin 120mm fan (but i really want the Noctua fan!). instead i think i may have to go for the Silverstone NT06-Pro (at 82mm high) and put a 25mm fan (Noctua PPC maybe) under the heatsink - do you think thats likely to be viable?

its a pity there arent offset ATX/SFX adapter plates.

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its a pity there arent offset ATX/SFX adapter plates.

If you have access to a drill, you can make one yourself! When you have a dremel and a saw, it becomes a piece of cake tongue.gif

Specification for SFX panel cutout: (From the SFX12V Power Supply Design Guide, Version 2.0, Appenix C)



Specification for ATX PSU mounting hole placement: (From the ATX Power Supply Design Guide, Version 2.2)



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If you have access to a drill, you can make one yourself! When you have a dremel and a saw, it becomes a piece of cake tongue.gif

Specification for SFX panel cutout: (From the SFX12V Power Supply Design Guide, Version 2.0, Appenix C)



Specification for ATX PSU mounting hole placement: (From the ATX Power Supply Design Guide, Version 2.2)



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this could be doable - im not exactly a metalworking whizz - ill have to have a loof and see if i can modify an existing sfx bracket with a drill and see how much room i can get out of it. i always found it strange that the brackets centered the SFX psu, given that an offset bracket can be oriented in basically any direction to suit a given case.

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this could be doable - im not exactly a metalworking whizz - ill have to have a loof and see if i can modify an existing sfx bracket with a drill and see how much room i can get out of it. i always found it strange that the brackets centered the SFX psu, given that an offset bracket can be oriented in basically any direction to suit a given case.

Yeah I find that to be pretty strange, too. Well you could make that bracket out of wood if that makes it easier for you biggrin.gif

I think the reason might be that the screws for the SFX PSU would interfere with the cutout for the ATX PSU, so you'd have to use a thicker sheet and countersunk screws in order to make it as much offset as possible.
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The adapter brackets not being offset in location forced me to be a bit more creative in planning my water cooling loop. If I could offset the PSU all the way to one corner of the case, I'd have more room to run tubes, wires and stuff.

I will probably make a custom bracket anyways. The steel bracket that came included with my Silverstone power supply does not match the aluminum case at all.
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I don't know if different Silverstone SFX PSUs come with different SFX->ATX adapter bracket, but the one that came with my 450W 80+Gold has the SFX cutout not centered, it's indeed offset to a side, but not all the way as that would interfere with one of the four screws for the ATX PSU (the one that's not located at a corner of the 150mm x 86mm box.) The cutout could have been further offset had the designer decided to provide the ATX PSU mounting holes on the bracket so that mounting the bracket onto a PC case is possible in only one orientation, by omitting one of the two symmetrically located non-corner screw holes. But that could result in an unwanted offsetting direction depending on the PC case in which this bracket gets used, since there's no guarantee that the specific case has the ATX PSU mounting holes for both orientations. And even if the case does provide ATX PSU mounting holes in both orientations, they have to leave some margin (say, at least 5mm or so) along the 150mm x 86mm box for the ATX PSU cutout, so one of the SFX screw holes on the bracket will still interfere with this chassis margin. (And it could be worse, the AC inlet on the SFX unit may interefere with this margin too if it's too wide.) Here is an example of such adapter bracket provided by the case manufacturer themselves:




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