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post #1781 of 2861 (permalink) Old 07-30-2015, 12:28 AM - Thread Starter
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SilverStone RAVEN RVZ02
380 x 87 x 370mm / 12.2L
[m-itx, dual slot riser, SFX]
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Silverstone ML08
380 x 87 x 370mm / 12.2L
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Added 2 new SilverStone cases.



The ML08 is getting close to what I want in my next SFF case, but its still a little too big.

The case I want should preferably:
  • Small Form Factor, not slightly smaller than mid towers
  • <10 Liters
  • <$150
  • Has a handle
  • Supports m-itx formfactor with 2 expansion slots
  • Approx. 10" gpu support
  • Air coolers only
  • Good positive airflow
  • 2.5" hdd only
  • SFX PSU only
  • No optical drive bay, NOT even the slim ones.


The case is meant to be carried around frequently so no watercooling support (the fittings might come loose due to the frequent movement, can't risk a leak)
It needs to be light, so maybe aluminum. From what I'm seen in crowd funded designs, the use of a flexible riser can reduce the overall size even more.
The TU100 I had didn't support long gpus, no intake for gpu. It was also hard to work in and I did not like the side panel mechanism.
Dan's A4-SFX has a layout very close to what I want. CPU cooler support is limited and it doesn't have a handle.

If any case manufacturer reps read this, perhaps than can provide some insight as to whether this is possible or not.

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The TU100 I had didn't support long gpus, no intake for gpu. It was also hard to work in and I did not like the side panel mechanism.
Dan's A4-SFX has a layout very close to what I want. CPU cooler support is limited and it doesn't have a handle.

If any case manufacturer reps read this, perhaps than can provide some insight as to whether this is possible or not.

Why not mod the A4 to give it a handle? The limitation to smaller coolers isn't as much of an issue as with most cases because they can draw in cold air directly and don't rely on case fans. From everything you say, it sounds like the perfect case for you. Maybe give it a try once it's available.
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Its not as simple as just screwing on a handle to the top of the case. The top panel has to hold the weight of the case and components.
And it looks like the front and top panel is in one complete aluminum piece and is held on to the frame with 4 screws at the top.
Also, I'm not so certain on the temps on the back of the gpu. It looks like there will be little to no airflow going to the back.

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Yes, top and front panel are a single piece, but it wraps around the front to the bottom and is secured with two additional screws at the bottom as far as I know. You could ask Dan himself whether he thinks the case has the structural integrity to support a top handle.
The back of the GPU is only cooled by convection, but as the case has exhausts at the top, I reckon the airflow generated from the chimney effect will be enough to keep it within reasonable limits.
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Any GTX 980 / 980Ti that can fit into an unmodded SG05?

I know some ITX GTX 970 models, but I'm still wondering if I could go higher.

P.S.: It needs to be Asus/Gigabyte/MSI/Galax/Elsa/Zotac since I want the free MGSV coupon. thumb.gif

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Any GTX 980 / 980Ti that can fit into an unmodded SG05?

I know some ITX GTX 970 models, but I'm still wondering if I could go higher.

P.S.: It needs to be Asus/Gigabyte/MSI/Galax/Elsa/Zotac since I want the free MGSV coupon. thumb.gif

dont think the 980 would fit an un modded SG05, SG05 would do 9.5" un modded

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Lots of nice builds here. I think i buy an SG05, hope this will fit my ASUS GTX 660 :/.
Whats about the airflow? Is a front 120mm intake good enough to keep things cool in this small case?
I want to put an i5-4460 with an Raijintek Pallas in it.
Only need to find a better GPU that will fit in this case, but at least, In contrast to other mITX cases it can handle GPUs longer than 17/18cm.

Edit: can i join the club with my Chieftec IX-01B?

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The TU100 I had didn't support long gpus, no intake for gpu. It was also hard to work in and I did not like the side panel mechanism.
Dan's A4-SFX has a layout very close to what I want. CPU cooler support is limited and it doesn't have a handle.
Hopefully NVidia/AMD will produce more short high end GPUs for ITX in near future so the case manufacturers can make shorter/smaller ITX gaming cases, and then we could build high end gaming ITX system in ~7-9lt cases. smile.gif
But you can install R9 Fury X, R9 Nano, GTX970 Mini etc in TU100 and now it also come with the additionally perforated side panel for better thermal. smile.gif

You'll have to wait a bit for that Dan A4 case, and it won't be cheap(probably the most expensive case in $$$ per volume). One thing I don't like about Dan A4 case is the 10.5" GPU support, imo smaller version of the case with ~7-9" GPU support would have been much better. Anyway the side panel mechanism on Dan A4 is very similar to TU100(but you pull the sticking out part instead of using leaver to pop open the side panel) so I prefer the side panel mechanism on TU100.

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I still can't figure out why there's no short 680 or 980 - the 670 and 970 had variants after all. Same GPU, same amount of VRAM, and only marginally more cooling capabilities needed.

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Lots of nice builds here. I think i buy an SG05, hope this will fit my ASUS GTX 660 :/.
Whats about the airflow? Is a front 120mm intake good enough to keep things cool in this small case?
I want to put an i5-4460 with an Raijintek Pallas in it.
Only need to find a better GPU that will fit in this case, but at least, In contrast to other mITX cases it can handle GPUs longer than 17/18cm.

Edit: can i join the club with my Chieftec IX-01B?


The sg05 has good positive air pressure. Will be be using the optical and 3.5 hd cages? If you remove the cases, there will be not airflow restrictions.
If the Asus 660 is 10.2" (25.91cm) it should fit as the sg05 supports up to 262mm without modding.

Are you sure thats not the IX-03B http://www.chieftec.eu/en/chassis/itx-tower/ix-03b.html with the hdd attachment?


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Hopefully NVidia/AMD will produce more short high end GPUs for ITX in near future so the case manufacturers can make shorter/smaller ITX gaming cases, and then we could build high end gaming ITX system in ~7-9lt cases. smile.gif
But you can install R9 Fury X, R9 Nano, GTX970 Mini etc in TU100 and now it also come with the additionally perforated side panel for better thermal. smile.gif

You'll have to wait a bit for that Dan A4 case, and it won't be cheap(probably the most expensive case in $$$ per volume). One thing I don't like about Dan A4 case is the 10.5" GPU support, imo smaller version of the case with ~7-9" GPU support would have been much better. Anyway the side panel mechanism on Dan A4 is very similar to TU100(but you pull the sticking out part instead of using leaver to pop open the side panel) so I prefer the side panel mechanism on TU100.

I'm not in a rush so the case can wait.
The SFX PSU in the Dan A4 has to go in the front. Perhaps with you rotate the PSU, the length could be shorter. Or perhaps if you rotate the psu width-wise, the case will be thicker, which allows for taller cpu coolers.

With the side panel mechanisms in the TU100, every time I take it off, I feel like the panels are going to bend or the pins that's holding it in place is going to break off.

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