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post #11 of 2861 (permalink) Old 08-31-2012, 05:52 AM - Thread Starter
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The argument about Prodigy does not need to be started again. Most people in the thread have agreed with what I've been saying. Prodigy is not a SFF. A case can be ITX, but not SFF. We called it a compact case, without compromise.
I'm sorry, that is not my intention, but you're right, I think I'll go remove that bit in my posts.

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I guess if you want to make an official SFF club, that's ok. I can't say that I agree with this move though.
All it does is further fracture the small community we have now. This is like having a public playground we all enjoy. Then a new kid comes on the block and starts coming in. So we go build our own playground and make a sign specifically keeping out the new kid and even some kids that played on the previous playground.
If it'll make people happy, I guess it is a good thing. Seems like it will just cause more confusion and conflict though.
You're partially right, but people are arguing anyways. I just want to see more pictures of people's systems in small cases.
This isn't about power, but size. It could be the custom small NAS casew you built or the low power pfsense firewall hidden behind the sofa. In this club, small is better. tongue.gif
NO more arguing and post more pics!

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I'm not done with my PC-Q11 build yet, but it's coming along. I'll post pictures once I finish obtaining components and installing them.

 

Smallest SFF case I found so far (not uSFF): PC-Q02

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=600&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f

149mm x 230mm x 200mm = ~6.9L

 

Another SFF, PC-Q05:

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=602&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f

346mm x 98mm x 343mm = ~11.6L

Supports Thin Mini-ITX standard

 

Even moar SFF, PC-Q12:

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=605&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f

258mm x 155mm x 418mm = ~ 16.7L

 

PC-Q07

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=319&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64

193mm x 290mm x 208mm = ~11.6L'

 

IMO Intel designer specs are the way to be. What you think of mini-ITX usually falls under 19L.


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It should be MAX 20 liter - 25 is just way to big ...

The build im planning is less than 10 l, and will be using i7-3770k + GTX670 ... So 19-20l should be max if this club will be.
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I'm not done with my PC-Q11 build yet, but it's coming along. I'll post pictures once I finish obtaining components and installing them.

Smallest SFF case I found so far (not uSFF): PC-Q02
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=600&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f
149mm x 230mm x 200mm = ~6.9L

Another SFF, PC-Q05:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=602&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f
346mm x 98mm x 343mm = ~11.6L
Supports Thin Mini-ITX standard

Even moar SFF, PC-Q12:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=605&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f
258mm x 155mm x 418mm = ~ 16.7L

PC-Q07
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=319&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64
193mm x 290mm x 208mm = ~11.6L'

IMO Intel designer specs are the way to be. What you think of mini-ITX usually falls under 19L.

I added the cases to the op, and you calculated the volume of the box it comes in instead of the case tongue.gif
I agree with the intel specs, but what about cases that are just over?
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It should be MAX 20 liter - 25 is just way to big ...
The build im planning is less than 10 l, and will be using i7-3770k + GTX670 ... So 19-20l should be max if this club will be.
Yep, post pics when you're done biggrin.gif
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Three generations of what I dubbed "MAX11L", short for 'maximun power in 11L' biggrin.gif
Version 1:
http://www.techreaction.net/2010/08/13/gaming-in-tight-spaces-mini-itx-featuring-gigabyte-silverstone-and-prolimatech/
Version 2:
http://www.techreaction.net/2010/09/24/gaming-in-tight-spaces-part-2%e2%80%93-max11l-featuring-corsair-and-gigabyte/

Version 3:
http://www.techreaction.net/forums/cases-modding/6740-gaming-tight-spaces-max11lv3.html
I'm brainstoming a new project right now which I will call MAX15L using the SG07/08 chassis.

Loved your mods, there are just no wasted space, looking forward to your next one thumb.gif

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Personally I never want my "club" to ostracize anybody. The whole Prodigy thing is moot to me. While I appreciate all those who rushed in to defend the purity of the thread, I can't help but feel that the popularity of the Prodigy can only be a good thing for the SFF community as a whole. Big manufacturers are starting to wake up to the idea of enthusiast ITX cases. Let the Prodigy come, it will bring more boards to the small-case purists. Everyone wins.

And, while I don't have the ego to care about another SFF Club, I do agree with previous sentiment that dividing this already small segment into volume-based strata does more harm than anything else.

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subbing in for now... about to start a uSFF build haha...
its 2.5L... smile.gif i guess i quailify when its built. wont be 2morro or anything but untill then ill watch O.O

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Oh, one more thing...I have not been supporting it due to lack of interest...but, I did make a chart which would probably be very useful to this discussion:
https://www.overclock.net/t/1075787/case-size-comparison-chart


still drooling over your cases... o.o well done again sir.
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I'll be starting an uSFF build as well soon... if I don't change my mind... like I usually do. tongue.gif

8.3L so it's kissing the edge of uSFF.



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