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post #2101 of 2861 (permalink) Old 11-30-2015, 06:26 PM - Thread Starter
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The most narrow I could make this case is 125mm, which means only cards with no side power connectors (like the Nano) would fit. This contributes greatly to its small volume.

Looks like it might be a bit over 6 liters since I want to extend the length of the case a bit to get some more cooling room. I'm trying to figure out how the front should look. I'm actually looking at NAS devices and not just other ITX cases for ideas.

This mockup uses the R9 fury cooler as a placeholder, which is 65mm combined width. For the CPU, I'll likely use a liquid cooler that is 60mm or less.

What would the size be if the radiator is above the motherboard. That way gpu power connectors on the top would work.
The case would be thicker but shorter


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My lian li PC-Q21B

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and the weekend buy gtx 750 ti
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Added you. Have you got the 750ti yet?

<div class="post-sig post-sig-limit shazam usersig-click"><div class="reparse-sig-lineheight"><div style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://www.overclock.net/t/1300645/usff-sff-club">The Official <span style="font-size:9px;">uSFF</span>/<span style="font-size:10px;">SFF</span> Club</a></div><span></span><br><span>GeForce2 MX 64 &lt; FX 5200 128 &lt; Mobility Radeon 9700 64 &lt; 8400M GS 128 &lt; 9800GT 512 &lt; GTX 460 1 &lt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; 650TI Boost SLI 2 &gt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; GTX 1070 8</span><br><br><span>rma amount of times: (# of times rma-ed/product failed after warranty period/products owned)</span><br><span>Antec AIO: 2/0/1 | Corsiar AIO: 1/0/2 | Corsair ddr2 sodimm ram: 2/0/2 | Adata ddr2 ram: 2/2/4 | Adata SSD: 2/0/1</span><br><span>WD Black: 1/0/2 | WD Green: 1/1/3 | SilverStone SFX PSU: 2/0/4 | MSI gpu: 1/1/2</span><br><br><span>Products I am avoiding: Sandforce Controller based SSD | TLC nand flash SSD | Asetek | Anything that has season passes</span></div></div>


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post #2102 of 2861 (permalink) Old 11-30-2015, 07:22 PM
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Oh yeah, this thread. I'm not big on clubs but it's sad seeing cases listed in the OP with zero owners so please add me for the Lian-Li PC-Q33 (PC-Q33B).

Post in the other thread, including bad pics:
https://www.overclock.net/t/541767/club-for-those-with-beastly-matx-itx-rigs/12310#post_24649081

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What would the size be if the radiator is above the motherboard. That way gpu power connectors on the top would work.
The case would be thicker but shorter

Isn't the point of this design that you get exceptional airflow for the radiator? By putting it above the mainboard, it would either be close to the PSU or to the 2.5" drives, obstructing a fair portion of the fan exhaust.

I found that build to be rather amusing. Of course, it looks good and it's amazing that they managed to cram so much stuff into that case, but why have a watercooling loop if you're placing radiators of the same surface area on the exact spots where the original heatsinks initially were? The answer is probably "because why not?".
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I found that build to be rather amusing. Of course, it looks good and it's amazing that they managed to cram so much stuff into that case, but why have a watercooling loop if you're placing radiators of the same surface area on the exact spots where the original heatsinks initially were? The answer is probably "because why not?".

 

It has improved the temps ever so slightly. Worth the extra effort? Probably not to be honest, but it was more of a "challenge" for me to try and fit a sizeable loop in such a tiny case :)



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not sure where is the best place to ask this but im contemplating about the viability of running a gtx 950 or other GPUs that i can run entirely off a pico 160XT with its 192w brick combo.

hardware that i could potentially pair it up with is ether a i5 3570 or i3 2100 and 2 drives.

abit sick of how weak the 7850k + r7 250 is especially compared to the 750ti

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not sure where is the best place to ask this but im contemplating about the viability of running a gtx 950 or other GPUs that i can run entirely off a pico 160XT with its 192w brick combo.

hardware that i could potentially pair it up with is ether a i5 3570 or i3 2100 and 2 drives.

abit sick of how weak the 7850k + r7 250 is especially compared to the 750ti

The GTX950 pulls about 90w. The i5-3570 + GTX 950 + 2 drives adds up to 187w, leaving 5w for the other items like motherboard/memory/etc. The i3-2100 setup would get you to 175w leaving 17w for the other stuff. The i3 would maybe work. i5, not so much... I know components don't pull max rating all the time, but if you started gaming, you'd likely find the end of that 192w in a hurry.

I don't believe in having 500w of headroom with your PSU like some (Bro, you need at least 1000w to run 2 cards in SLI!1!!1!), but 17w is pretty close. For comparison, a 750ti only pulls 60w (and makes 60w worth of heat in a tiny package), which is why those are the darlings of the SFF/uSFF world.

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The GTX950 pulls about 90w. The i5-3570 + GTX 950 + 2 drives adds up to 187w, leaving 5w for the other items like motherboard/memory/etc. The i3-2100 setup would get you to 175w leaving 17w for the other stuff. The i3 would maybe work. i5, not so much... I know components don't pull max rating all the time, but if you started gaming, you'd likely find the end of that 192w in a hurry.

I don't believe in having 500w of headroom with your PSU like some (Bro, you need at least 1000w to run 2 cards in SLI!1!!1!), but 17w is pretty close. For comparison, a 750ti only pulls 60w (and makes 60w worth of heat in a tiny package), which is why those are the darlings of the SFF/uSFF world.

fair enough, though my GPU would be external of case so heat isnt a big deal.

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fair enough, though my GPU would be external of case so heat isnt a big deal.

It's not the heat so much as the power draw that's causing me worry with that 192w PSU. The 750ti is an awesome little card and would still be a great step up from the R7 250, though.

GPUs are thirsty beasts, which is a bummer for us small-computer nerds.

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It's not the heat so much as the power draw that's causing me worry with that 192w PSU. The 750ti is an awesome little card and would still be a great step up from the R7 250, though.

GPUs are thirsty beasts, which is a bummer for us small-computer nerds.

step up sure but really dated especially for the more recent titles. the thing is though if i am to get a 750ti i may as well get an alienware alpha.

the 950 is a significant step up to the 750ti.

doubt the PC would be constantly pulling 175 constantly, that should be absolute maximum peak power draw provided GPU boost doesnt do anything stupid. some benches kinda show that with a x99 8core (140w) with a 950 is pulling ~180w running crysis 3 (189w for stupidly boosted cards)

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