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post #2471 of 2861 (permalink) Old 03-27-2016, 11:41 PM - Thread Starter
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There is currently a discussion whether Project mATX is actually below 20L. It seems like Jeff has used incorrect dimensions to calculate the volume of his case.

That's a bummer, but you bring up a good point. Some official measurements include the case feet and some don't.
There are also cases that are not rectangular shaped and those specs just list the longest lengths.
Should we measure it by the amount of space it would take up if we were to fit it into the smallest rectangular box possible?

For example, the jonsbo V6:
240 mm (D) x 250 mm (W) x 210 mm (H) = 12.6L w/ case feet (official measurements)
240 mm (D) x 250 mm (W) x 207 mm (H) = 12.42L w/ case feet (my own measurements)
240 mm (D) x 250 mm (W) x 202 mm (H) = 12.12L w/o case feet (my own measurements)

jonsbo C2:
200 mm (W) x 224 mm (D) x 262 mm (H) = 11.74L w/o case feet (official)
201 mm (W) x 226 mm (D) x 262 mm (H) = 11.9L w/o case feet (mine)
200 mm (W) x 224 mm (D) x 272 mm (H) = 12.2 w/ case feet (mine)

That's around ~0.4L of difference. There's also the CM cases with the extruded PSU. I'm pretty sure it does not take the extruded PSU into account.
There's also the Taiding Pi case which is a cylinder. The volume I got was 9.2L, but if we use the longest w/d/h dimensions and made it into a cube, it'll be 11.7L.

I noticed that some cases cannot function without the case feet while some can. I won't be able to test every case do measure each case myself so I'll have to rely on the official dimensions.

<div class="post-sig post-sig-limit shazam usersig-click"><div class="reparse-sig-lineheight"><div style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://www.overclock.net/t/1300645/usff-sff-club">The Official <span style="font-size:9px;">uSFF</span>/<span style="font-size:10px;">SFF</span> Club</a></div><span></span><br><span>GeForce2 MX 64 &lt; FX 5200 128 &lt; Mobility Radeon 9700 64 &lt; 8400M GS 128 &lt; 9800GT 512 &lt; GTX 460 1 &lt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; 650TI Boost SLI 2 &gt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; GTX 1070 8</span><br><br><span>rma amount of times: (# of times rma-ed/product failed after warranty period/products owned)</span><br><span>Antec AIO: 2/0/1 | Corsiar AIO: 1/0/2 | Corsair ddr2 sodimm ram: 2/0/2 | Adata ddr2 ram: 2/2/4 | Adata SSD: 2/0/1</span><br><span>WD Black: 1/0/2 | WD Green: 1/1/3 | SilverStone SFX PSU: 2/0/4 | MSI gpu: 1/1/2</span><br><br><span>Products I am avoiding: Sandforce Controller based SSD | TLC nand flash SSD | Asetek | Anything that has season passes</span></div></div>


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post #2472 of 2861 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 03:12 AM
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Hi guys, can I join?

- Chieftec FI-01B-U3 with 250W TFX power supply (http://www.chieftec.eu/en/chassis/itx-tower/fi-01b-u3.html)
- ASRock FM2A88X-ITX
- AMD 7870K (downclocked and downvolted to [email protected], or [email protected])
- G. Skill Ares 16GB DDR3 2,400 MHz
- Crucial BX100 250GB
- Seagate Momentus Slim 320GB
- Arctic Alpine 64GT (temporary, going to move to an Alpenfohn Panorama)




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Very nice! Though the APU could use a bit more power. Mine is running at 3GHz and 1.2V and it hasn't fried the 80W PSU yet. You have three times as much power available. I vote you use it. thumb.gif

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post #2474 of 2861 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 07:48 AM
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Nice Feimitsu!!! I have the same case (same chassis actually, with different front, a Winsis Wi-02) and the same mobo too!.
Why so much undervolting? Is a cooling problem? I had my 7700K at 4GHz with Turbo at 4.4GHz, and the GPU at 960MHz. Though I modded a little the case since it hasn't very good airflow I i have a better heatsink (modded GeminiS). My PSU is an HP 220w (single 16A 12v+ line), and I have 3 HDDs (1 SSD, 3.5" 2TB green and a 2.5" 320GB velociraptor) + the ODD.

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The undervolt is because I BOINC 24h/24, and because these chips are massively overvolted at stock. Look, this is the voltage table of my 7870K:
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[75W CPU Load] 3.1GHz 0.925v (minimum voltage)
3.2GHz 0.950v (0.925v crash during Overdrive test)
3.3GHz 0.975v (0.950v crash during Overdrive test)
3.4GHz 1v (0.975v crash during Overdrive test)
[85W CPU, 122W CPU+GPU] 3.5GHz 1v (0.975v crash during Overdrive test)
[88W CPU Load] 3.6GHz 1.025v (1.000v shut down during Overdrive test)
3.7GHz 1.050v (1.025v crash during Overdrive test)
[98W CPU Load] 3.8GHz 1.075v (1.050v Overdrive detected hardware failure)
3.9GHz 1.100v (Seems stable)
[115W CPU Load] 4.0GHz 1.125v (1.100v Overdrive detected hardware failure)
4.1GHz 1.175v (1.150v Overdrive detected hardware failure)
4.2GHz 1.225v (1.175v Overdrive detected hardware failure, 1.200v crash in MoH)
4.3GHz 1.250v (1.225v Overdrive detected hardware failure)

Default was like [email protected], crazy if you ask me.

You can see some measurement at the wall smile.gif [email protected] for full load CPU+GPU is pretty impressive, considering I use MSR Tweaker to overcome the automatic downclocking to 3GHz when the GPU is in heavy use.

Anyway, I think i'm going to mod the stock AMD cooler with a Maglev fan from Sunon, 25mm vs 20mm of the stock, and it should be far more silent. This cooler can be very powerful when paired with the right fan. The Arctic 64 GT is built for 65W TDP, and the open frame fan structure is not good in my case. It just keeps re-using hot air in the case rather than sucking it from the top.
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Hey guys,
I was browsing through the various cases listed in the first thread post, and had a question about the Primo P115EA. It looks like it's mostly sold on Chinese websites, but I was wondering if anyone has been able to purchase it from an American (or at least English) site? I'd really like to get one to mess around with. Any info would be appreciated.

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Hey guys,
I was browsing through the various cases listed in the first thread post, and had a question about the Primo P115EA. It looks like it's mostly sold on Chinese websites, but I was wondering if anyone has been able to purchase it from an American (or at least English) site? I'd really like to get one to mess around with. Any info would be appreciated.

I've never seen one for sale on an English site, but you could always order one from Taobao (or through an agent if you're uncomfortable with the experience of buying from a Chinese site). Agents are all over the place and offer a middle-man service for a percentage of the total item cost. There are reviews for different agents all over reddit if you want to find one to use. If you want to buy directly from Taobao, there's a guide here that I personally love and highly recommend.

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"What I've done so far is pour alcohol on things - it helps people, so I figured it would be the same for keyboards."

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I've never seen one for sale on an English site, but you could always order one from Taobao (or through an agent if you're uncomfortable with the experience of buying from a Chinese site). Agents are all over the place and offer a middle-man service for a percentage of the total item cost. There are reviews for different agents all over reddit if you want to find one to use. If you want to buy directly from Taobao, there's a guide here that I personally love and highly recommend.

Interesting, thanks for the info, and +rep. I can't read Mandarin, and Google translate can only do so much. I don't have a TaoBao account (the most prevalent place I've found the case, and I'm assuming it's much like Ebay.), and am having a bit of difficulty creating one, but, I'll read the link you posted in more depth, and see what I can figure out.
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Interesting, thanks for the info, and +rep. I can't read Mandarin, and Google translate can only do so much. I don't have a TaoBao account (the most prevalent place I've found the case, and I'm assuming it's much like Ebay.), and am having a bit of difficulty creating one, but, I'll read the link you posted in more depth, and see what I can figure out.

I just bought a massive load of keyboard parts a while back. If you need any help, feel free to shoot me a PM or something, I'll help in any way I can.

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"What I've done so far is pour alcohol on things - it helps people, so I figured it would be the same for keyboards."

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I just bought a massive load of keyboard parts a while back. If you need any help, feel free to shoot me a PM or something, I'll help in any way I can.

Right on. I'm trying to set up an account through Bhiner, and I have the case being quoted for sale now. I'll let you know if I need anything else.
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