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post #71 of 2861 (permalink) Old 03-10-2013, 07:26 PM - Thread Starter
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teaching.gif It's a common mistaken assumption that a radiator blows hot air. Watercooling radiators heat the air itself only a couple tenths of a degree.

In small case, it's hotter inside than large case. So if using radiator as exhaust then you are "cooling" your CPU with hot case air. Small cases you always want radiators to be intake to provide maximum temperature delta. In large case, the internal case temp is closer to ambient, so it can be preferable to use rads to exhaust, especially when mounted at top of case.

I didn't measure the air temps coming out of the rad, but the exhaust air feels warm not hot. I know you should get some air flow around the cpu socket area to cool the vrms.
I don't have any exhaust fans (only a push/pull pulling air into my h60) but hot air shill gets trapped on the gpu side. Maybe I have too many filters restricting airflow.


I have update this clubs definition of a SFF system according to the poll. Our club defines anything less than 20 Liters is consider to be the Small Form Factor, so anything up to 19.99 is accepted, no matter m-itx or matx.

<div class="post-sig post-sig-limit shazam usersig-click"><div class="reparse-sig-lineheight"><div style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://www.overclock.net/t/1300645/usff-sff-club">The Official <span style="font-size:9px;">uSFF</span>/<span style="font-size:10px;">SFF</span> Club</a></div><span></span><br><span>GeForce2 MX 64 &lt; FX 5200 128 &lt; Mobility Radeon 9700 64 &lt; 8400M GS 128 &lt; 9800GT 512 &lt; GTX 460 1 &lt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; 650TI Boost SLI 2 &gt; 650Ti Boost 2 &lt; GTX 1070 8</span><br><br><span>rma amount of times: (# of times rma-ed/product failed after warranty period/products owned)</span><br><span>Antec AIO: 2/0/1 | Corsiar AIO: 1/0/2 | Corsair ddr2 sodimm ram: 2/0/2 | Adata ddr2 ram: 2/2/4 | Adata SSD: 2/0/1</span><br><span>WD Black: 1/0/2 | WD Green: 1/1/3 | SilverStone SFX PSU: 2/0/4 | MSI gpu: 1/1/2</span><br><br><span>Products I am avoiding: Sandforce Controller based SSD | TLC nand flash SSD | Asetek | Anything that has season passes</span></div></div>


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Officially killed my Gigabyte h77m board while trying to add a 775 heatsink (scratches around the heatsink board holes).... It start the fans for a few seconds then it shutdown. Hopping to get a MSI z77 itx locally.

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If anyone with an MSI Z77IA E53 could head over to the club I am thinking of putting some work into it would be greatly appreciated. smile.gif

https://www.overclock.net/t/1371933/msi-z77ia-e53-owners-club-join/0_20
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Officially killed my Gigabyte h77m board while trying to add a 775 heatsink (scratches around the heatsink board holes).... It start the fans for a few seconds then it shutdown. Hopping to get a MSI z77 itx locally.

Any feedback on this board?

hang on.... why did you try and fit a 775 heatsink on a 1155 board?

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hang on.... why did you try and fit a 775 heatsink on a 1155 board?

It was a aftermarket cooler for my SG05 case doh.gif

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Not the smartest idea in the world was it? tongue.gif
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Not the smartest idea in the world was it? tongue.gif



No axesmiley.png ,but it could have been worst. Lucky for me it was only the board that can be replaced with something better thumb.gif

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I added Longroadtrip's Wesena ITX2 to the uSFF list.

omsin - Sorry to hear about your damaged board. Did you get a new one yet?

Anyone got tips on on cases other than the SG05? I've built 3 systems using that case.

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Well I agree that smaller is better. I honestly loathe the Bitfenix Prodigy because it is a Mini-ITX case the size of a large mATX case. It is laid out well for working on it but wastes a lot of space when it comes to compactness. I would post a pic of my case, but it's anout 33 L. I want to find a more compact case and go Mini ITX.

When it comes to definitions... It's subjective but I'd consider anything under 20L to be SFF and uSFF to be 10L.



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