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post #11 of 982 (permalink) Old 09-28-2014, 09:55 AM
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As cool as it would be I just don't see that happening. Both Asus and EVGA have said that while it should technically be possible it would be cost-prohibitive considering how small a market that would be and the amount of work that would be needed to develop it.

Socket 2011 is huge and wouldn't leave much room on the board for everything else, even on mini-DTX. Here's a mockup I made a while ago that really shows this.


Yeah I heard Jacob say they tried to do a x99 mitx but ran out of room for DIMM slots, which is why I thought of E-DTX (wider than DTX, like how E-ATX is wider than ATX) tongue.gif

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Yeah I heard Jacob say they tried to do a x99 mitx but ran out of room for DIMM slots, which is why I thought of E-DTX (wider than DTX, like how E-ATX is wider than ATX) tongue.gif

But then it's even more of a niche market and you're not too far off from mATX at that point. tongue.gif

I'd rather see more really compact mATX cases that make use of SFX PSUs instead of non-standard form factors (I'm talking about E-Mini-DTX, I'm all for more Mini-DTX). I'm currently working on one but it'll be some time before it's ready but the Silverstone 600W is plenty capable of running a Haswell-E system and SLI 970s with modest overclocking so hopefully Silverstone does something like a smaller version of the SG09.

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But then it's even more of a niche market and you're not too far off from mATX at that point. tongue.gif

I'd rather see more really compact mATX cases that make use of SFX PSUs instead of non-standard form factors (I'm talking about E-Mini-DTX, I'm all for more Mini-DTX). I'm currently working on one but it'll be some time before it's ready but the Silverstone 600W is plenty capable of running a Haswell-E system and SLI 970s with modest overclocking so hopefully Silverstone does something like a smaller version of the SG09.

Heh,

The biggest concern for me regarding mATX is the extra length of the board, rather than the width. After all, your GPU tends to hang past the side of mITX boards atm anyway. The obvious exception is cards with 170mm PCB's, but alas most mITX cases don't make great use of that width dimension anyways

I suppose I could be happy with DTX z97 too, but I'd rather see mobo manufacturers aim for the stars, rather than aim for the moon tongue.gif

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I'd use this for my next build provided I could find a single slot GPU(or if cases were made with 3 expansion slots.)

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I suppose I could be happy with DTX z97 too, but I'd rather see mobo manufacturers aim for the stars, rather than aim for the moon tongue.gif

If we're talking really out there stuff I'd like to see mini-BTX become a thing, either that or support for Nvidia's NVLink.

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Yeah I would love to see some mDTX boards, too!

One application that I have in mind is using a hardware encoding capture card in a SFF or even uSFF build. As these are great for LAN parties, and quite a few people like to record footage from their PCs, it could be a viable option to specialize the build by using a capture capture card to nearly annihilate the frame drops when recording instead of using a high performance and energy consuming CPU to merely lower them.

Also, high end HTPCs could use TV tuner cards and a dedicated GPU, which would be awesome.
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Good points so far everyone!

As far as X99 on mITX/mDTX, I would love that, but I fear it's just not feasable. Shuttle did it with X79 on one of their form factor boards (which are very similar to full DTX):



A Mini-DTX X99 would be epic though, even if it was only dual channel SODIMMs. I hope one day we can look at full DTX LGA2011-3 boards, but they will break compatibility with some cases.

And again, for those who favor a dual slot/air cooled card, you don't have to use the extra slot. thumb.gif
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This is interesting as DTX only has one full PCIe lane to accommodate a single GPU at this time leaving the Short PCIe for an expansion slot for a dedicated Audio card, SSD, or smaller Add-on card.
My example picture showed a board with an x16 and an x1 slot, but that doesn't have to be the case (and indeed, if I could find a picture of a Mini-DTX board with two x16 slots I wouldn't have made this thread.)

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(and indeed, if I could find a picture of a Mini-DTX board with two x16 slots I wouldn't have made this thread.)


Hi there! biggrin.gif


This is an old render from the Z77 days.



All credit for the render goes to Confusis from sffr.

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Hi there! biggrin.gif


This is an old render from the Z77 days.



All credit for the render goes to Confusis from sffr.
See, something like that would be awesome to have!

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This is an old render from the Z77 days. Warning: Render! (Click to show)


All credit for the render goes to Confusis from sffr.

I think @Dyson Poindexter meant if he could find a picture of a real mDTX board with two x16 slots, he would've bought that and been happy ever after without a need to open this thread which aims to counteract the lack of exactly those boards.
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