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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 02-09-2018, 12:47 AM
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Thanks for the offer, such a creative build.

Can you move the PSU up a little with 3d printed support under it, it may help with the PSU main cable. OR just open the PSU and mod the female connector with the cable directly and put it inside the PSU unit, then get a cable extender to the side of the case (just day dreaming here)

like this: https://imgur.com/a/zMpSH

You could 3D print a barrier around the GPU to isolate it from the rest of the case, then put a 40x40 fan at the end of GPU to help extract hot air.

like this: https://imgur.com/a/BELcJ

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I thought about elevating the PSU but it currently sits under the top rail, I might see if I can simply bend that rail to clear the PSU, but then I'm not sure I will have enough room for all the cables to sit on top. There are also rivets towards the front of the case and I'm not sure the PSU will clear them, I will have to look at that.








When I extend the front cover I could see if I could stuff the cables in front of the PSU to keep the clutter off the top allowing me to elevate it and get that plug a little closer to the bottom of the case.






I could also make room on top by shortening the cables , and I could modify the power plug at that time, but I don't think I'm quite ready to void my warranty. I might keep an eye out for a good deal on a fully modular PSU though.

I think I'm going to get the F12 in there and see what that does to temps but I was thinking the same thing about making a barrier. I need to remove my temporary HDD mount because that blocks a lot of airflow from the GPU and funnels it towards the CPU, then I will probably cut an opening in the cover lengthwise following the GPU about 1 or 2 inches wide and either form or print a barrier to promote flow out of the case. I also think I need more opening on the fan side of the GPU.





Putting a 40x40 fan towards the front of the GPU is a good idea, I will look into that. Maybe I can re-purpose the Ryzen fan there somehow, lol.

Thanks for all the ideas! It's helped me re-evaluate how I want to go about doing this!
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After second thought regard the psu, there might not be much to do. In fact the top space is perfect for cable management. Just after some time, you could open it and fiddle with it.

Not sure which cpu cooler you installed, but how about printing a separator between the 2 fan that extend a bit as in pic, then make one fan intake and one vents. This will force the case air circulation.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/attac...=78641&thumb=1

If the gpu temps are 80, it's fine, I wouldn't cut the case. the 40x40 fans might help imo if it were vent out of the case to help with the mess that the gpu fans makes.
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The problem that I see there is with the rear fans being so close together and not having a rear divider the intake fan will recirculate the exhaust fans warm air reducing efficiency.



Thats kind of why I was thinking of having the top fan also act as the intake, and have the rear fans act as exhaust. I might also reverse that, rear fans be intake and top exhaust. I want to do testing to see what works best.

The CPU at completely stock speeds is running at 80° in games because of all the hot air the GPU is dumping into the case. This Wraith spire will keep the cpu at 65° to 70° in a well ventilated case. That would allow me to overclock the CPU to some extent. I believe people say the stock cooler can handle 80watts or 3.6ghz on all cores I think, and that's what I would like to aim for.
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Maaan.. i can tell you're having loads of fun with this build.

Waiting impatiently for testing results.
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I think I have a design that I'm comfortable with.

I moved the USB and audio ports to the top, it seemed like the best place to put them with everything else going on in there. It should use the original power and reset switch assembly, I might have to print a new power button cap but we will see. There are a couple points for cable management.

The cover has been extended approximately .625" to accommodate the hard drive, as much that I would like to ditch it I need the storage and cant afford a large SSD.

I added some ventilation to the front of the cover right where the video card sits, there's space for either 4 40mm fans, or 2 60mm fans with a max depth of 20mm. I also might toss in some red LED's to add a little character. There are no mounting points in the cover for the fans, I will make a separate fan cage to hold everything if I think I need them.

Please excuse the very amateur renderings, I have absolutely no experience with Keyshot or any rendering programs.

There are a couple of overhangs, but my bridging is pretty good so we will see how it works out.
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does the 3d printer gives you any hardships ?

you can just install 1 or 2 fans and close the rest of the openings.
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The printer from day one has been trouble free, I'm on a forum dedicated to these and I see a lot of people have issues that are assembly related, It comes as a pile of parts. Failing to secure the wires is a really big one, as a result the heater cartridge pulls out of the hotend and has started some fires.

Here is a figure I printed with it. The base is the size of a quarter for reference.



I could block off all vents except for those that have fans on them but I'm going to see if it makes an improvement in passive cooling first with all vents open.

I'm currently lying to my printer to make it work. The part is wider than my heatbed by 1/8" so I put an aggressive chamber that allows it to fit, but now I'm running into physical limitation issues! GAH, SO CLOSE!!!
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try printing diagonally with the model standing .
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I got everything fitting and working. I wanted avoid standing it up because that would be a nightmare of support material.

I also have one printing at my work and we will see which one turns out better.


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