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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-26-2019, 10:06 AM - Thread Starter
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Downsizing. Need advice.

Good afternoon Overclock Members.

My wife and I have just returned from a trip to Hawaii. My brother and his wife live there and we headed over for a visit. While there we checked out the local economy and job market in between beach visits, plantation tours, and drunken evenings from too many coconut drinks. We have decided to relocate to Hawaii. Yes we know its all priced higher there, wages are higher to balance it out. Brother said "Live paycheck to paycheck where you are now, or live pay check to paycheck in an island paradise. You choose." Can't say that I can argue with him.

So, here what I need. The wife and I need to downsize our computers. I need something economical because we are trying to save up money. Still has to play games and be productive though. Would prefer a small footprint. m-ITX preferred. Clean lines as I want to get away from the extra bulk of our current cases. I can transfer a few things over from our old systems. Below are the stats for each of us.

Mine:
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 Custom Painted.
Mobo: Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Dual Fan
GPU: ASUS Geforce GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX(Keep to save money?)
RAM: 2x Avexir Core Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600mHz
Storage: OS: Seagate 250GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive(Probably keep or maybe go to M2 if priced right)
Other Storage: Various other drives that can be condensed to one larger drive.
PSU: Seasonic Focus+ 750FX(Purchased early 2018 probably keep)


Wifes:
Case: Antec 902
Mobo: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Night(OG Man)
GPU: Asus R7 260X OC 2GB(update if possible)
RAM: 3x 2GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600MHZ
Storage: OS: 320GB something or other. Maybe a SSD I dunno.
PSU: Currently unknown(Probably replace)


Any recommendations would be appreciated. This is a downsize and upgrade opportunity for us. Would like to steer away from Intel due to my own preference. But MIGHT consider it. Lets keep it as inexpensive as possible. I'll probably be picking parts up a little at a time. Starting with cases.

Thanks!

"I REJECT YOUR REALITY, AND SUBSITUTE MY OWN!" - Adam Savage
I FOLD FOR: MY MOTHER IN LAW. A 2X BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.~MY SISTER IN LAW. A LUNG CANCER SURVIVOR~MY SISTER TAKEN AT AGE 25 BY OVARIAN CANCER.~MY MOTHER TAKEN AT AGE 50 BY OVARIAN CANCER~MY GRANDMOTHER TAKEN BY CANCER AND ALZHEIMERS DISEASE.
PLEASE. DON'T TRY AND PERSUADE ME NOT TO FOLD, IT WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS

Red Steel
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Blue Butterfly
(12 items)
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T >STOCK<
Motherboard
Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z
GPU
ASUS Geforce GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX
RAM
Avexir Core Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory Kit Model AVD3U16001108G-1CIR
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD320KJ 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Optical Drive
Lightscribe DVD/RW
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus+ 750FX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push/Pull
Case
HAF 922 Custom Painted
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
Phillips 32" LCD Flatscreen @ 1920x1080
Keyboard
Ducky DK1008 w/ Cherry MX Bkack Switches
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Mouse
Ratpadz XT
Audio
EACH G2000
Other
Lamptron FC6 Fan Controller
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3
GPU
Asus R7 260X OC 2GB
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600MHZ
Hard Drive
>>320GB with a 1TB External<<
Optical Drive
>>DVD/RW<<
Cooling
Xigmatek Dark Night
Case
>>Antec 902 w/ Blue LED Fans<<
Operating System
>>Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit<<
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-26-2019, 11:00 AM
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-26-2019, 08:50 PM - Thread Starter
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Hey! Thanks for your input! But this thread is in the Small Form Factor Systems section. Not the laptop section. I will consider a laptop though if priced well enough.

"I REJECT YOUR REALITY, AND SUBSITUTE MY OWN!" - Adam Savage
I FOLD FOR: MY MOTHER IN LAW. A 2X BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.~MY SISTER IN LAW. A LUNG CANCER SURVIVOR~MY SISTER TAKEN AT AGE 25 BY OVARIAN CANCER.~MY MOTHER TAKEN AT AGE 50 BY OVARIAN CANCER~MY GRANDMOTHER TAKEN BY CANCER AND ALZHEIMERS DISEASE.
PLEASE. DON'T TRY AND PERSUADE ME NOT TO FOLD, IT WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS

Red Steel
(19 items)
Blue Butterfly
(12 items)
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T >STOCK<
Motherboard
Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z
GPU
ASUS Geforce GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX
RAM
Avexir Core Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory Kit Model AVD3U16001108G-1CIR
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD320KJ 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Optical Drive
Lightscribe DVD/RW
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus+ 750FX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push/Pull
Case
HAF 922 Custom Painted
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
Phillips 32" LCD Flatscreen @ 1920x1080
Keyboard
Ducky DK1008 w/ Cherry MX Bkack Switches
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Mouse
Ratpadz XT
Audio
EACH G2000
Other
Lamptron FC6 Fan Controller
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3
GPU
Asus R7 260X OC 2GB
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600MHZ
Hard Drive
>>320GB with a 1TB External<<
Optical Drive
>>DVD/RW<<
Cooling
Xigmatek Dark Night
Case
>>Antec 902 w/ Blue LED Fans<<
Operating System
>>Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit<<
Monitor
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-26-2019, 09:19 PM
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Would be a lot easier for someone to help you if you had (numerical) budget in mind rather than "cheap as possible." Is cheap $5 or under a grand?

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/ca...t=price&page=1

Pick a case at least that you like. It's nearly impossible to pick components for a Mini ITX build without knowing cooler height requirements or GPU size requirements or PSU size constraints or cooling needs.

I think Silverstone makes some pretty sweet ITX cases. I've got a Silverstone Milo ML07B for my second rig and I think it's a pretty sweet case but it's kind of subjective. It lets you run huge GPUs and has great cooling for the GPU (two 120s on top of the GPU) but you get shafted on CPU cooler height requirements and you need an SFX PSU to use it.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
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(24 items)
NUC U
(10 items)
CPU
i9 9900K
Motherboard
AsRock Z390 Taichi
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
Hard Drive
HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Sandisk Ultra II 480GB SSD
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Hard Drive
Western Digital EZRZ 3TB
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU
Monitor
Dell E2311H
Keyboard
CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S
Mouse
Logitech G502
Audio
SMSL SA50 + FiiO E10K
Audio
Micca RB42
Audio
Polk Audio PSW111
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
Audio
Philips SHP9500S
Audio
Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
GPU
Iris Plus 655
RAM
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400
Hard Drive
Dierka K1 120GB
Hard Drive
ADATA SU800 128GB M.2
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional
Operating System
MX Linux
Keyboard
Rii RKM709 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech M510
CPU
i7 860
Motherboard
Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
GPU
EVGA GTX 950 2GB
RAM
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
Hard Drive
Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
Power Supply
Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
Cooling
Arctic Alpine 11 GT 2
Case
Silverstone Milo Z ML07B
Operating System
Windows XP x86 SP3
Keyboard
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-27-2019, 10:19 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks! Thats some good points. I didn't put a price in because I am trying to spend as little as possible. Case suggestion definately helps direct me. I think I have chosen the Fractal Design Nano S. I spotted that case when looking through other cases.

"I REJECT YOUR REALITY, AND SUBSITUTE MY OWN!" - Adam Savage
I FOLD FOR: MY MOTHER IN LAW. A 2X BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.~MY SISTER IN LAW. A LUNG CANCER SURVIVOR~MY SISTER TAKEN AT AGE 25 BY OVARIAN CANCER.~MY MOTHER TAKEN AT AGE 50 BY OVARIAN CANCER~MY GRANDMOTHER TAKEN BY CANCER AND ALZHEIMERS DISEASE.
PLEASE. DON'T TRY AND PERSUADE ME NOT TO FOLD, IT WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS

Red Steel
(19 items)
Blue Butterfly
(12 items)
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T >STOCK<
Motherboard
Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z
GPU
ASUS Geforce GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX
RAM
Avexir Core Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory Kit Model AVD3U16001108G-1CIR
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD320KJ 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Optical Drive
Lightscribe DVD/RW
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus+ 750FX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push/Pull
Case
HAF 922 Custom Painted
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
Phillips 32" LCD Flatscreen @ 1920x1080
Keyboard
Ducky DK1008 w/ Cherry MX Bkack Switches
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Mouse
Ratpadz XT
Audio
EACH G2000
Other
Lamptron FC6 Fan Controller
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3
GPU
Asus R7 260X OC 2GB
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600MHZ
Hard Drive
>>320GB with a 1TB External<<
Optical Drive
>>DVD/RW<<
Cooling
Xigmatek Dark Night
Case
>>Antec 902 w/ Blue LED Fans<<
Operating System
>>Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit<<
Monitor
>>22" Westinghouse WS<<
Keyboard
CM Storm Devastator MB24
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This is what I have kinda put together.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DyD6ZR

"I REJECT YOUR REALITY, AND SUBSITUTE MY OWN!" - Adam Savage
I FOLD FOR: MY MOTHER IN LAW. A 2X BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.~MY SISTER IN LAW. A LUNG CANCER SURVIVOR~MY SISTER TAKEN AT AGE 25 BY OVARIAN CANCER.~MY MOTHER TAKEN AT AGE 50 BY OVARIAN CANCER~MY GRANDMOTHER TAKEN BY CANCER AND ALZHEIMERS DISEASE.
PLEASE. DON'T TRY AND PERSUADE ME NOT TO FOLD, IT WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS

Red Steel
(19 items)
Blue Butterfly
(12 items)
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T >STOCK<
Motherboard
Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z
GPU
ASUS Geforce GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX
RAM
Avexir Core Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory Kit Model AVD3U16001108G-1CIR
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD320KJ 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Optical Drive
Lightscribe DVD/RW
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus+ 750FX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push/Pull
Case
HAF 922 Custom Painted
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
Phillips 32" LCD Flatscreen @ 1920x1080
Keyboard
Ducky DK1008 w/ Cherry MX Bkack Switches
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Mouse
Ratpadz XT
Audio
EACH G2000
Other
Lamptron FC6 Fan Controller
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3
GPU
Asus R7 260X OC 2GB
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600MHZ
Hard Drive
>>320GB with a 1TB External<<
Optical Drive
>>DVD/RW<<
Cooling
Xigmatek Dark Night
Case
>>Antec 902 w/ Blue LED Fans<<
Operating System
>>Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit<<
Monitor
>>22" Westinghouse WS<<
Keyboard
CM Storm Devastator MB24
Mouse
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i also second the laptop, it is portable, productive, compact and much more convenient to use.

as for a desktop replacement, i'd look into AMD's APUs as replacement for the Phenom II X4.
the Phenom II X6 should be replaced by AMD's Ryzen 6C/12T chip, reuse the 1050Ti.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Silver View Post
This is what I have kinda put together.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DyD6ZR
I think this is a fully capable pc, you can upgrade the cpu in the future with 6/8 core cpus, and the same for the vga.

The case is great, i love fractal design. I own a Node 304.
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How about this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xd4xq4

R5 2600, B450 board & RX580 8GB for $711.94 before rebates. $709 after shipping and rebates.

SG13 case for the most compact computer you could ever want, there is room to grow into an off the shelf water cooling later down the road. But a case is going to be 100% personal preference and you should pick what you like the most there.




Some of my thoughts about building budget PC's.

Keep your old systems whole and SELL THEM to help cover the cost of your new systems. If you steal this and that you will have a bunch of spare parts that no one wants. I kept my old Intel 2500K system whole and sold it plug and play ready to go for a whole lot more than I would have if i parted it out.

When you want to get the most for your money, don't buy fancy things like water cooling and instead shift those funds into the core components that will last you longer. You can always get things like water cooling later.




RX580 over the 1050ti because its faster and freesync later down the road. Nvidia also had driver issues that gave poor performance when mixed with Ryzen. Not sure if that has been fixed.

I have the SG13 case and R7 1700, my system is all air cooled and its dead silent except for when my video card fans rams up which is rare.

You can also drop some of the core components to what you have listed in your last pcpartpicker to save some money.

The other thing I noticed is that you have no HDD or OS on your PCPartPicker build, will you need those things?


Here is a complete system I dropped the RX580 down to a RX570 and added a 480Gb SSD, $706 before rebates. $698 after shipping and rebates.


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dmNXzY





Edit:

If you want to save even more do what I did. Call the staples 1-800 number and have them price match this R5 1600 at micro center, I was able to get my R7 1700 for $203 back in 2017. The local stores refused to price match, I called the 1-800 number and had it purchased 5 mins later.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/...0-ce2fef9f5925

https://www.staples.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-...duct_IM18Q6822


CPU: R7 1700 Memory: Patriot Viper 4 @3200mhz Video Card: Red Devil RX 580 8GB Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B350 ITX
SSD:
Crucial MX300 275GB SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB Case: Silverstone SG13
Monitor: 24" AOC 1080p 144hz VA (AOC C24G1)

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