Originally Posted by blucube
Thanks, I guess my thinking was with the new procs around the corner was to do just enough with possible upgrades when available. However, it would be primarily if not almost exclusively for gaming.
I'll take a look! I only saw the 202 and jumped on it (looked like nothing I've seen before for a PC build)
Ah, yes, get cheap Ryzen 1000 series and drop a 3000 in a little later. Good plan. That said, I know I'd then say to myself, "I've got this CPU sitting here doing nothing, let's build another system around it..."
The Metis isn't the smallest case in the SFF market, but it's a fairly nice design (I got the green one simply because it was cheaper, and it has really grown on me) and can fit an astounding amount of stuff in it - provided you don't mind some thought and painstaking precision if you want more than two SSDs. I'm eyeing up the Phanteks Evolv Shift (X) for another SFF build, although it is quite a bit larger than I really would like. That said, things like the Fractal Nano S are massive
in comparison to the Node 202, Metis etc. There seems to be a dramatic tradeoff between cases with good cooling and size, my old boss experimented briefly with a Node 304 for a proxy/data dump and despite what Fractal say on their product page, the system in there absolutely cooked when any load at all was applied...
The 202 looks like a small desktop chassis?
Originally Posted by epic1337
take the 65W TDP versions of AMD's 2000 series, it'd put less pressure on the NH-L9, the 3000 series would be even better if you could wait.
That's a valid point - I took that route with my SFF box; Ryzen 1700 (65w TDP). I just use the stock cooler, it's fairly quiet and keeps the CPU under control. The real issue for most of these SFF cases will be the GPU.
Unless you really only want AMD GPUs, a variety of "ITX size" nVidia GPUs are rather good. I use a GTX 1070 on a short PCB. 150-something mm long, IIRC... can't remember the manufacturer, but Gigabyte, MSI and Zotac do ITX cards.