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post #12311 of 13311 (permalink) Old 11-22-2015, 04:39 AM
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Almost at the end of my NCASE build.

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Intel 5820k
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post #12312 of 13311 (permalink) Old 11-22-2015, 06:07 AM - Thread Starter
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Looks good! It's a shame that the kelvin series isn't available in the US.

Why do we mount round fans on square radiators?


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Thoughts on the Asus 960 mini... reviews seem to praise it.
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/GTX960MOC2GD5/

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Thoughts on the Asus 960 mini... reviews seem to praise it.
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/GTX960MOC2GD5/

It looks like a very decent card, EVGA make an itx 960 with 4GB VRAM, http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3961-KR, personally I would go for the 4GB.

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It looks like a very decent card, EVGA make an itx 960 with 4GB VRAM, http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3961-KR, personally I would go for the 4GB.

The Asus looks better redface.gif and has better performance, honestly I only play Blizzard games/MMOs on my PC so I doubt I'd use up the VRAM.

The Asus does look like it'd exhaust better than the EVGA too, which is a concern of mine since I have limited space in my case, the EVGA was the first option I looked at as it's cheaper but it looks like it'd just re-circulate the heated air.

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Thoughts on the Asus 960 mini... reviews seem to praise it.
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/GTX960MOC2GD5/

The R9 380 and newly released 380X both out-perform the 960, overall. They also both come with 4GB Vram and are not bottlenecked like the 960 is from it's narrow 128bit memory bus. 380 and 380X are both 256bit. Sapphire makes a mini ITX R9 380 but it's only 2GB.

I'd recommend the 380/X over the 960.
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Speaking of that EVGA, I got some new parts in on some early sales including a pricing error on a configurator buried in the bowels of newegg. Or let's not tell anybody that.

Here's the partslist (not all new of course), which is not exactly beastly but does what I need it to:

Intel Core i7-6700K
Scythe Kotetsu
Asus Z170I Pro Gaming
Corsair 2x8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz Vengeance LPX
EVGA GTX 960 SC 2 GB [that's the short, stubby one]
Crucial MX200 500 GB
Crucial M500 240 GB
Toshiba 1 TB 5400 rpm 2.5"
EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
Lian-Li PC-Q33B



My cell phone front camera produces that purple tint on basically everything, and the selfie cam (3rd pic) is awful, so apologies for the potato pics. If anybody wants to see better pictures and maybe the lid popped I think I could go borrow at least some kind of half-passable point-and-shoot.

I was considering the 380/X as well (though at the 380X price, you're getting a bit close to the next performance tier), but the performance/watt is lower and for whatever reason most Nvidia cards are quieter at a given performance level. Well, part of the reason is the power consumption difference, I suppose. I'd heard that the Asus mini cards with the weirdo hybrid fan create more turbulent airflow that has a less appealing sonic character. My main focus was on noise levels, except for saving like $30 on the EVGA SC instead of the Asus Strix, which would have also fit. I think the Strix is probably a little quieter on load, though the EVGA is not bad.

I haven't spent time tuning fan profiles and clocks much yet, but everything stays under 1000 rpm on combined CPU+GPU stress tests.
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https://www.overclock.net/t/1582042/wccf-nvidia-s-entire-900-series-gpu-lineup-gets-price-cuts-for-the-holidays/0_100

Well my choices might have been made easier, the 970 has just received a price cut... if I can find a stubby model that's observing the price cut I'll get that.

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It looks like a very decent card, EVGA make an itx 960 with 4GB VRAM, http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3961-KR, personally I would go for the 4GB.

ASUS makes a 4GB version of their card, too.
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The Asus looks better redface.gif and has better performance, honestly I only play Blizzard games/MMOs on my PC so I doubt I'd use up the VRAM.

The Asus does look like it'd exhaust better than the EVGA too, which is a concern of mine since I have limited space in my case, the EVGA was the first option I looked at as it's cheaper but it looks like it'd just re-circulate the heated air.

Looks are of course subjective, but which review claims that the ASUS has an edge over the EVGA?

The EVGAs vent area is way larger and about 1/2 of its airflow gets directed to the back, while the ASUS one exhausts about 3/4 of it's hot air directly into the case. Depending on your case, the two will either run similarly hot or the ASUS will be a lot hotter while increasing your total system temperature as well.
For sake of temperatures, I would always choose the EVGA over the ASUS.
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The R9 380 and newly released 380X both out-perform the 960, overall. They also both come with 4GB Vram and are not bottlenecked like the 960 is from it's narrow 128bit memory bus. 380 and 380X are both 256bit. Sapphire makes a mini ITX R9 380 but it's only 2GB.

I'd recommend the 380/X over the 960.

The 380 has a TDP of 190W though, while the GTX960 has just 120W, so +71% of additional heat output and much higher power draw for a marginal performance increase. Not worth it, in my opinion.
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Speaking of that EVGA, I got some new parts in on some early sales including a pricing error on a configurator buried in the bowels of newegg. Or let's not tell anybody that.

Here's the partslist (not all new of course), which is not exactly beastly but does what I need it to:

Intel Core i7-6700K
Scythe Kotetsu
Asus Z170I Pro Gaming
Corsair 2x8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz Vengeance LPX
EVGA GTX 960 SC 2 GB [that's the short, stubby one]
Crucial MX200 500 GB
Crucial M500 240 GB
Toshiba 1 TB 5400 rpm 2.5"
EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
Lian-Li PC-Q33B
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My cell phone front camera produces that purple tint on basically everything, and the selfie cam (3rd pic) is awful, so apologies for the potato pics. If anybody wants to see better pictures and maybe the lid popped I think I could go borrow at least some kind of half-passable point-and-shoot.

I was considering the 380/X as well (though at the 380X price, you're getting a bit close to the next performance tier), but the performance/watt is lower and for whatever reason most Nvidia cards are quieter at a given performance level. Well, part of the reason is the power consumption difference, I suppose. I'd heard that the Asus mini cards with the weirdo hybrid fan create more turbulent airflow that has a less appealing sonic character. My main focus was on noise levels, except for saving like $30 on the EVGA SC instead of the Asus Strix, which would have also fit. I think the Strix is probably a little quieter on load, though the EVGA is not bad.

I haven't spent time tuning fan profiles and clocks much yet, but everything stays under 1000 rpm on combined CPU+GPU stress tests.

Which Strix card would've fit this case? Are you talking about the ASUS GTX960 ITX version?
Why did you get the 2GB version over the 4GB one?

Congrats on completing the build!
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The 380 has a TDP of 190W though, while the GTX960 has just 120W, so +71% of additional heat output and much higher power draw for a marginal performance increase. Not worth it, in my opinion.

It's actually not THAT big of a difference in terms of extra heat output etc. I think a lot of people often blow this "heat and power draw" thing a little too much out of proportion. But, to each, his/her own. wink.gif

Here's a review of the 380 ITX for those who might be interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmGEe6ss7-4

*Edit* I know that's the 285, but it's the same GPU/card.
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