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post #9881 of 9891 (permalink) Old 10-07-2019, 04:16 AM
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Hey guys, I bought an e5-1680V2 a week or two ago to get some more life out of my X79 R4Forumla and it should be here within the next couple of days. I was trying to decide what modded BIOS I should install. I wanted to install the latest version (5001 for the RF4) with NVMe support, but I am holding off because most of the modded BIOSes I've found/downloaded so far have the CPU microcode updates. Should I just go ahead and install it anyway? Is the performance hit a lot, or is it not worth the worry?

Also, if using a program like Inspectre, it seems you can disable the protection in Windows, but I was wondering if your MB's BIOS has the microcode update, will that still affect the performance of the system even if it's disabled within Windows?

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Seems my 4930K is burning out. She was always a poor OC chip voltage wise, so it has had nearly 1.5v pumping through it since I got it in 2013/2014. Whenever it came out. Gets random system lockups with nothing in windows or linux logs. Swapped PSU, still happening. So, figure I have burned the CPU finally. So, looking to replace it to limp by till I pull the trigger on a threadripper build.

The question is, would a 1660v2 be worth the extra $ over a 1650v2? I know the base clock is only a bit higher. Think the cache was a little larger too. But, will the 1660v2 OC better? If they are about the same I will avoid the China shipping and just get a 1650v2. Thoughts. Leaning more 1650v2 at the moment.
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1650v2, 1660v2 not worth it.

1680v2 or 1650v2.

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Do you guys think I should avoid using a modded BIOS with the CPU microcode updates? Is the performance hit incurred too much?

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Quote: Originally Posted by MrTOOSHORT View Post
1650v2, 1660v2 not worth it.

1680v2 or 1650v2.

That is what I figured. Not sure I want to monkey with the 1680v2. More than I want to spend to just limp along for a few months.

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Do you guys think I should avoid using a modded BIOS with the CPU microcode updates? Is the performance hit incurred too much?
Generally speaking, the microcode only really has any negative effects on specific enterprise workloads. Generally, not the stuff home users need to worry about. You can play it safe, or just test it and see what happens. It's not a big deal if you need to roll back.
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I'm quite impressed that my 8 year old setup is holding up. I ran it with C states disabled and no side panel for years.

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What's the best BIOS for SB-E again? I went back 50x pages or so as the search is terribly broken and the consensus appears to be 4102/4206?
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Depends what you mean by best I suppose.... best performing or best with all the fixes and features?

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Quote: Originally Posted by deafboy View Post
Depends what you mean by best I suppose.... best performing or best with all the fixes and features?


Best for overclocking. For example I downgraded from 4503 to 4206 this morning and was able to lower vcore from 1.39 to 1.38. Prime running for 5 hours so far (still in progress, will probably stop it at 8 hours as all I do is game on this box).


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4206 was the best one I remember using for shear clocks when I had my 3930k in....

But to me the loss of the other stability and features wasn't worth the sub 100MHz I lost.

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Quote: Originally Posted by deafboy View Post
4206 was the best one I remember using for shear clocks when I had my 3930k in....



But to me the loss of the other stability and features wasn't worth the sub 100MHz I lost.


Noted, thank you.


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