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post #1011 of 4239 (permalink) Old 12-27-2014, 11:18 AM
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Thanks for the link.
I did the test and I can notice 15ms input lag 21 out of 25 times (first try ever taking the test).
I got 18/25 on first test for 10ms, but 16 on the next two. Hmm.

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Thanks for the link.
I did the test and I can notice 15ms input lag 21 out of 25 times (first try ever taking the test).
I got 18/25 on first test for 10ms, but 16 on the next two. Hmm.
I got 23/25 for 15ms and 23/25 for 10ms :3
Only 14/25 for 5ms but I feel like I could pass it with a different mouse (Avior is heavy as hell and possibly smoothed)

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I got 23/25 for 15ms and 23/25 for 10ms :3
Only 14/25 for 5ms but I feel like I could pass it with a different mouse (Avior is heavy as hell and possibly smoothed)
how do u guys take the "test"? i dont see anywhere on his post where u can test lag yourself
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how do u guys take the "test"? i dont see anywhere on his post where u can test lag yourself

It's the lag test on blurbusters forum

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I'm getting 22/25 for 25ms consistently, but I cannot get more than 15 right at 22ms. I tried so hard like 5 times and couldn't get any lower. Does this mean my mouse could be screwing up the test? (Razer Deathadder 2013)

Or am I just slow in the head?
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned within this behemoth of a thread, but the IRQ Resource of the mouse is an important consideration. Before checking this, mine was on IRQ 16, which is the same as both my GPU and sound card. While I couldn't personally change the IRQ for the GPU or sound card because there's only 1 available slot for each on my mobo, you can change the IRQ Resource of your mouse by changing the USB port is plugged into.

After I tested a few ports, I got my mouse on its own IRQ 23. This not only made the mini-spikes in DPC latency checker and LatencyMon fewer and farther between, demonstrating improved input lag, it also polls much more consistently @ 1000Hz in MouseMovementRecorder. Before there was ~2 strange polling deviations around 900-950Hz and 1050-1000Hz every 50 polling measurements during constant high speed mouse movement, and now it sticks to 1000Hz +/- 5Hz like a laser beam.

Here's how I went about checking the IRQ resource and changing it:

1) Windows key + R, type devmgmt.msc and hit enter, then View > Devices by connection. Find your USB host controllers and open them up until your find 'HID-compliant mouse' as a 'USB Input Device'. Then right-click the USB host controller that you found it under ('Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller' if you're using the Microsoft driver), Properties > Resources tab, and look for the number in parentheses at the end of the IRQ line.

2) Windows key + R, type msinfo32.exe and hit enter. Under Hardware Resources > IRQs, you can see which other devices your mouse's USB host controller is sharing IRQ Resources with. Ideally, it would have an IRQ Resource all its own, but you definitely want to try and have it on a different one than your GPU, sound card, in-use network adapter, and possibly even USB keyboard (I use PS/2 to avoid this one altogether).

3) If your mouse is on a conflicting IRQ Resource, swap it to another USB 2.0 port** and repeat these steps until you find an IRQ Resource all its own or at least on the least-conflicting one available.

4) [Optional] Tweet @AlGore that you won the internet. Laugh hardily.

**I have USB 3.0 disabled in the BIOS options as r0ach recommends.

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Thanks for the guide.
It's not possible on my motherboard.

ANYTHING I plug in to ANY of my 8x USB2.0 port (rear IO panel) will always go under the same Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller (IRQ 23)
There is another Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller (IRQ 21) but nothing I plug in to any USB port will pick that one up. Asmedia USB3 is disabled in the BIOS and this chipset does not have native USB3.




I'm not willing to install motherboard/usb drivers to test, I always leave everything on default Microsoft drivers except for GPU

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That's a little strange that none of the ports seemed to be linked to the other controller. I'm right with you on using MS drivers for USB. On my motherboard, the 2 USB ports beside my keyboard PS/2 port were both the conflicted IRQ, while the ones nearer the onboard ethernet and such were the good IRQ. I never tested the blue ones next to them ('USB 3 ports'...I suppose they revert to USB 2 when 3 is disabled) nor the front panel ones.

Sorry I can't really help you further, as I don't really know much more about IRQ than what I posted there, which really ain't much ._.

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Maybe for *****s and giggles you could disable in Device Manager the USB controller that seems to control everything and restart. See if that somehow forces the other one to do something besides setting firmly on its thumb. I doubt it, but it's something to at least try that wouldn't require any driver installation changes. Though I'm not exactly sure how you would go about re-enabling the USB controller if it was your only means of using your USB devices who-let-rip-smiley.png

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Is there a workaround for getting my iphones to connect to my pc without using Intel Management Engine Interface? Device manager list PCI simple communications controller as no drivers installed.
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