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post #3821 of 3837 (permalink) Old 02-13-2019, 04:05 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nawafwabs View Post
can you show how to route it with picture ,please
I'm talking about VB-Audio Cable or Voicemeeter

Reason is because PS4 Pro is connected to my second computer monitor and It comes with no speakers and only headphone jack for output. The GF loves watching netflix on the big screen which is right next to my PS4/PC so my only option is headphones because both PS4/PC audio can output on DAC

Windows WASAPI cuts out mixer audio in exclusive mode and same goes with ASIO driver. I bypass this by using VB-audio cable to output 24-bit 96khz always to DAC while VB-audio input is accepting general audio because it's acting like default device. Windows will "listen" to Cable output because it's output format is same bitdepth and sample frequency as my DAC output. Downside is they will have to be matching to allow audio to pass through "listen" or else "exclusive mode" or "ASIO" will cut out mixer audio always

Please be careful of selecting the correct bitdepth and sample frequency for each audio device. Each audio device will have "Advanced" tab with default format and I think windows defaults to 16/44.1, you might be loosing information or simply capturing nothing because being so different than source. Also depending on VB-audio or voicemeeter the program itself does Internal sampling



idk if 2000/XP have this option and would recommend Audio Repeater of some kind if you plan on using that


EDIT: So your example.

1. Cable Input will be 16-bit / 44.1 - 48 Khz (for overwatch and emulators need that special format to playback correctly) and "default audio device".
1a. Internally VB-audio does have selectable sample frequency and this is up to you on what frequency you want (from main exe)
2. Cable output will be 24-bit / 48 Khz and "listen to this device" -> Soundcard
2a. Now whatever media center or player you use select your soundcard instead of WASAPI so it will always output directly to soundcard with 24-bit 48khz


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ASIO
ASIO is a sound card communication system created by Steinberg.

If your soundcard has a native ASIO driver, this is the most direct (and normally best) way to communicate with it.

Please note that ASIO4All is basically Kernel Streaming with an ASIO wrapper. There's no good reason to use ASIO + ASIO4All vs just using Kernel Streaming directly in Media Center.

WASAPI (Windows Audio Session API)
WASAPI is a hardware communication system in Vista, Windows 7, and newer. When used in exclusive mode, the Windows system mixer is bypassed, but other applications cannot simultaneously use the audio device.

Kernel Streaming
Kernel Streaming is a hardware direct way to speak directly to a WDM audio driver. It works on XP, so is useful when the above two options are not possible.

Direct Sound
This is Windows default and the most compatible output method. It plays through the system mixer. This means all formats will be converted by Windows to the native format of the card. It is highly compatible, but it is not the highest quality method.

Wave Out
This is a legacy output mode. With some misbehaved hardware, it may work better than DirectSound.
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Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809 (OS Build 17763.316)

This is all the steps ive done on my fresh win installation:

1. Windows update + Driverbooster/Driversolution etc
(Open CMD--gpedit.msc--Computer Configuration--Administrative Templates--Windows COmponents--Windows Update--Configure Automatic Updates(click on it)--Click on disable)
2. Disable Windows Update
3. Settings > Themes > Desktop icon settings > computer/controll panel
4. Disable remote assistance
5. Turn off mouse acceleration. Enhance pointer precision Off.
6. Control Panel > AutoPlay off
7. User Account Controll setting off
8. Defrag > Scheduled optimization Off
9. Control Panel > Indexing Options > Internet Explorer History Uncheck
10. Search > Xbox > Xbox live settings > All Off
11. Computer > System > Performance > Settings > Uncheck

Animations
Fades
Show under mouse pointer
Slide open combo boxes
12. Computer > Adv > System protection Off
13. Services to turn off:
Connected User Experiences and Telementy
Delivery Optimization
Payments and NFC/SE Manager
Update Orchestrator Service

14. File explorer > view > options > Show hidden files Yes > Hide extensions NO
15. Settings > Privacy >
Feedback frequency > Never
All off that you dont use
16. Apps > remove all you dont need or use
17. Settings > Ease off access > Show transparency in Windows, and reminders etc.
18. Disable hibernation. Cmd > powercfg –h off
19. Nvidia Panel > vsync off > shader cache off

I do have some questions tho:
1. Do you find that TCPOptimizer help your online gaming experience?
2. Does Nagle’s Algorithm / Network Throttling Index Off actually help or any other settings in "optimzed" ?
3. Is it worth to change Multimedia Class Scheduler / GPU Priority to 8 for gaming/ "Priority” set to 6 for gaming. ?
4. Is it worth to change anything under Advanced Network Adapter Settings ? i do uncheck the powersaving stuffs. Some ppl on internet say flow control and interupt moderation should be turned off for gaming.
5. Tba


Did i miss anything? is there anything else i can do?

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Question should be - did it change a damn thing. Except for disabling Game Mode there is barely anything that can actually change anything.

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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
Question should be - did it change a damn thing. Except for disabling Game Mode there is barely anything that can actually change anything.
Really, after hundreds of pages and youre gonna come with this again. Dont waste your time. Dont waste our time.

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Those are some of the issues I had causing Stuttering or such, some of them are just making sure power stuff won't ruin turning off/on devices like Hard Disks too much.

The best settings for non stuttering games :

Advanced Windows Settings
=----------------------------------=

Windows 10 x64 / Windows Game Mode On
Disable HPET in Bios
CMD >Bcdedit
Add this command for better mouse accuracy and less lag input : Bcdedit /set disabledynamictick Yes
Make sure you don't have any UsePlatformClock or useplatformtick
If more than 4 cores , Select core starts from 2 , uncheck Core 0 and 1 . Test if game works better with HT or SMT or without using MSI AfterBurner watching CPU Usage or this site https://gamegpu.com/ , they already taken the tests for CPU Core/HT/SMT and GPU tests
Asmedia USB3 Drivers are not installed and disabled in the Device Manager, I enable when I need.
Logitech Drivers are not installed
Network Drivers / SolareFlare newest
Sound cards Eclaro PCIE newest drivers and Creative SXFI USB AMP


POWER SETTINGS
=----------------------------------=

Make sure you use Windows Power Options High Performance or Ultimate Performance and AHCI LINK set to Active and don't turn harddisk after 0 minutes .
Also Minimum Processor State at least 90% or 100%
Nvidia - Power Management for each game > change Prefer Maximum performance
AMD - I don't know what they have
IMPORTANT !! GPU FAN SETTINGS -(Also check if it causing you issues without MSI AfterBurner) if you have stuttering or very small fps drops while using MSI AfterBurner or such , make sure to use :
IMPORTANT !! Enable User defined software automatic fan control Custom /Change it as you would like to GPU won't overheat - 5000 ms TH -/c 0 Force Fan Speed update on each period On
Also check your GPU overclock, for me max was Core 2050 Mhz , as soon I passed it I got error 1080gtx card unplugged error which is Nvidia display driver reset .

BIOS AND GENERA SETTINGS
=----------------------------------=

Disable Global State -C6 Power from Bios and all other Power savings . Might Need to be Enabled on Asus Mobo for some reason I don't remember
Make sure X.M.P is used .

Make sure CPU Voltage is set to Offset and know how much by testing stability with prime95 or AIDA64 Stability test .

Select Voltage Load Balanced to at least Medium from Auto , for both CPU and SB

Disable APM for SSD if there is and also for Harddisk , using Hard.Disk.Sentinel and also Registry or CrystalDiskInfo7

Disable all Overlays including Windows Game Overlay , expect Msi Afterburner , and don't enable Voltage monitoring or such

Replace crap TIM on GPU if it overheats

Check Latencymon for any unnecessary DPC driver issues or any hardware that might causing Delay to CPU and eventually freezing / Stuttering in Sound and Video

If you have AVAST or AVG Antivirus Uninstall because they are crap , ESET or AVIRA are better

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Some good tips but I would not recommend to play with timers on windows 10 1809. It's useless because it won't change anymore. It's a fixed timer now.

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I have a Gigabyte z390 Board, which settings are the best for this?
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Quote: Originally Posted by PurpleChef View Post
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809 (OS Build 17763.316)

I do have some questions tho:
1. Do you find that TCPOptimizer help your online gaming experience?
2. Does Nagle’s Algorithm / Network Throttling Index Off actually help or any other settings in "optimzed" ?
3. Is it worth to change Multimedia Class Scheduler / GPU Priority to 8 for gaming/ "Priority” set to 6 for gaming. ?
4. Is it worth to change anything under Advanced Network Adapter Settings ? i do uncheck the powersaving stuffs. Some ppl on internet say flow control and interupt moderation should be turned off for gaming.
5. Tba

Did i miss anything? is there anything else i can do?
1. Idk, placebo felt hella good when I played fortnite. Hit a bunch of my shots.
2. Only other thing I use is RSS and that one Checksum that is required for RSS and increase Recieve and Transmit buffers to max 2048.
3. Idk, but i do it anyways.
4. Yeah I do those too. But I keep most of the other stuff on cause I want to remote control my PC when away.
5. Honestly biggest thing you can do is disable fullscreen optimization for all your favorite games/apps.
6. AMD Gpus only. Dislplay > Specs > Override > Set voltage swing and Premphesis to max(2).

There's a bunch of tweaks I wanna try out. Like why is there a [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\L ow Latency]
folder for win8 but not win 10? And also there's Audio, Pro, Audio, and PostProcessing(can we delete this one?)

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