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post #3891 of 4041 (permalink) Old 04-19-2019, 06:48 AM
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I found it boys. After 4 years on this thread. Real breakthrough.

Things that affect input lag:

Your monitor settings.

Your monitor cable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment..._might_have_a/

Your OS settings/registry/ect. Process Lasso and Project Mercury might help especially for Ryzen CCX performance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleRite/..._with_project/

Your application settings: disable fullscreen optimization or aero for win7.

I also just found this amazing reg mod that boosted my frame delivery performance by 25-50%. If you have AMD gpu I definitely recommend downloading Radeon Mod. It is akin to Nvidia Profile Inspector.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/92uqph/radeonmod/

"Here's the (ocasionally) updated pastebin version of all the tweaks i found that do something on AMD GPUs. AMD GPU Performance REG for 19.1.1+

I got banned from google+ for posting links to this as .reg files, which is ridiculous btw. It's ok, G+ is dead anyway.

(UPDATED 14/03/2019 for bugfixes. Should work now.)

I tested this with a RX 580 V1 MSI OCed to 1425core 2250mem 50% power limit and with disabling the 300mhz memory P0 state in overdriveNTool, great performance. I also added some DVRanalytics keys to disable in case you enabled AMD User Experience improvement program. Driver latest 19.3.2 tested on Windows 10 1809 October Update, AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16gb of RAM PC."

Theres also this other radeon reg file that you can try out as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...m_medium=web2x

Does anyone know of any other REGEDIT optimization that I can possibly do? Especially on the MMCSS?

https://www.reddit.com/r/killerinsti...ur_windows_10/

Whenever someone is suggesting a change to \Games they always say: "In the same Registry hive as the above tweak, you can also change the priority of Games. To implement this tweak, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\G ames and change the following registry values:

“GPU Priority” change its values to 8 for gaming.
“Priority” set to 6 for gaming."

However on the microsoft website it says:

"Priority REG_DWORD The task priority. The range of values is 1 (low) to 8 (high).For tasks with a Scheduling Category of High, this value is always treated as 2."

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...eduler-service

>_>

Oh last but not least, MSI Utility. You can configure MSI line interupts manually but MSI utility just so much more convenient. https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/wi...rrupts.378044/

The utility was updated recently and now you can add priorities towards each device as well, however I just don't know which settings are the most beneficial yet.

Also there still seems to be some performance increase by disabling HPET for ryzen systems(in BIOS).

If you know any more performance tweaks please don't be shy. Especially registry tweaks.

Redpilled Current Rig Ryzen 5-1600/XFX Black Edition RX-580/Asus x370 Pro-Gaming/Geil Super Luce 3000hz 16GB/

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post #3892 of 4041 (permalink) Old 04-25-2019, 01:30 AM
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I fixed my lag input , Another thing I discovered , it something with the bios settings and in windows . could be related to the Memory settings like PROCDT or CMD2T or Voltages .

I remember now .. one of the most important setting was the PCIE GPU Speed , PCIE GEN 1 2 3 or AUTO . It was always on AUTO or PCIE 3 . After I changed it to PCIE 2 I think this was fixed my issue.


I've found to fix the mouse lag for me are :

My 1080GTX has UEFI boot bug , sometimes it doesn't display image even though everything booted so I need to use CSM support so it won't happen randomly 1 to 10 or something like that - Fixed , Issue is buggy firmware ./ Fix Enable CSM

My 1080GTX lag input or delay with mouse , also UEFI bug from 1st , also PCIE Bandwidth need to be PCIE 2 GEN


Also I need to check if it's something to do with CMD2T 1T vs 2T I still don't know if 1T is stable for me even if it boots . there are many other factors. like DPC issues and weird freezes in games or something like that

RIGWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
A...



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So most important .

PCIE GEN 2
CSM Enabled

Check for GPU firmware update if exist

I just played Far Cry 5 Mars DLC and didn't have any freeze , mouse was perfect

RIGWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
A...


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Thx for the useful tips.

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The Biggest setting that fix my mouse lag 100% is the PCIE GEN 2 , no other setting did anything close to this effect .





If you guys want to try , test this

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/di...bility.421417/

Read all what it says , check for bios update and such. Read All

This is the steps I did because I already had the officially newest bios and no other newer bios exist.

I did the update it's easy ,
1.just use GPUZ to export firmware,
2. Download GOP update https://www.win-raid.com/file.php?ur...dia_GOP_update
3.drag the ROM to the GOPupdate.bat and it will say if it needs update or not, update it . you will have updated file in Documents
4.download Nvflash https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-nvflash/
5. Put Nvflash64.exe and the updated rom file
6.Disable the GPU from Device manager, restart .
7.run CMD as Admin go to the directory where nvflash64 is . write nvflash64 -6 BIOSNAME.rom It should say Succefullly updated.
8. Restart computer

RIGWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
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Ah poopy, it turns out my RX 580 has input lag. https://community.amd.com/thread/235028

I reduced it as much as I could on my side, but maan. Would your nvidia tweaks work with my AMD gpu?

Here is a link from the thread as well. https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...y-input-lag/1/

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Quote: Originally Posted by RamenRider View Post
Ah poopy, it turns out my RX 580 has input lag. https://community.amd.com/thread/235028

I reduced it as much as I could on my side, but maan. Would your nvidia tweaks work with my AMD gpu?
you mean me?

yes try the pcie Gen setting asap put it on 2x, don't change its speed. just the gen. keep it 16x gen 2 instead 3 or auto. the Uefi firmware fix Uefi bug is something maybe with gpu firmware, not all cards will need a fix from motherboard.

I had the same lag input with 3770k Intel Asus Z77 motherboard. and the same Uefi bios mouse lag, this fixed it. when u fix the Uefi bug u fix the windows lag.go with this understanding
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GEN2 settings did not change anything here.
Back to GEN3.

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Quote: Originally Posted by BUFUMAN View Post
GEN2 settings did not change anything here.
Back to GEN3.

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did you try legacy boot for the gpu so it won't use Uefi?
enable csm
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I don't have Gen options. I believe they should be under my PCI subsystem settings(under advanced tab) but there is only one option there called SR-IOV support. These are my only options relating to GPU. Last photo is the CSM Legacy settings I'll try out, and will see if there's a firmware update. If not, it must be GPU.

EDIT:HOLY COW THIS IS GOOD STUFF. I can shoot targets at long range now with much less mouse input loss. It feels much more snappier and responsive. I feel that I am getting much closer, I'm like 65% there. Not just games but entire system as a whole, desktop, menus ECT.
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