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post #3991 of 3999 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 03:41 AM
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Yeah my controller is working.

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So I think it's something with a USB auto detection driver. some drivers can't be installed or downloaded from the windows update, at least the Razer Controller I have.


This is great info about the detection of troubleshooting drivers

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/pre...8v%3dwin.10%29

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CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
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TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
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Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
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Quote: Originally Posted by x7007 View Post
So I think it's something with a USB auto detection driver. some drivers can't be installed or downloaded from the windows update, at least the Razer Controller I have.





This is great info about the detection of troubleshooting drivers



https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/pre...8v%3dwin.10%29
Yeah possible. I installed the Logitech mouse driver also but stoped autostart.

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As for the actual cause of the issues for input delays for the remaining people in this entire thread assuming you've ruled out most things it is likely related to a ground loop which raises the noise floor (the base amount of electrical noise) in the PC itself, when the noise floor is particularly high then almost any form of change to power (increase/decrease), configuration or interference both near field and far field make the issue worst. (moving cables around, changing fan/cpu/memory settings etc)

Want a TLDR? See my github page on this topic:
https://github.com/djdallmann/Gaming...NTERFERENCE.MD


Our journey and more info:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...r_NfEdAnjTAII/


Credit to Nug, Ashr and anyone else (Melody, Haze) who contributed to the fun science projects, research and inspiration.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Timecard View Post
As for the actual cause of the issues for input delays for the remaining people in this entire thread assuming you've ruled out most things it is likely related to a ground loop which raises the noise floor (the base amount of electrical noise) in the PC itself, when the noise floor is particularly high then almost any form of change to power (increase/decrease), configuration or interference both near field and far field make the issue worst. (moving cables around, changing fan/cpu/memory settings etc)

Want a TLDR? See my github page on this topic:
https://github.com/djdallmann/Gaming...NTERFERENCE.MD


Our journey and more info:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...r_NfEdAnjTAII/


Credit to Nug, Ashr and anyone else (Melody, Haze) who contributed to the fun science projects, research and inspiration.
Ashr - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197979240181/
Nug - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198042287644/
Timecard aka TC! - http://steamcommunity.com/id/tcard

So I have EMI ferrite on HDMI , Coaxial Cable, PC Power Plug, Mouse Cable

It seems that the mouse is 90% better now, moves like my laptop 100 Hz , and I have LG OLED E6 55" here.

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CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
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TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
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Ferrite can help but if you have a grounding/ground loop noise issue it almost always creeps back even after adding ferrite, heck removing and re-adding the ferrite can make it feel better. My github has more info and recommendation based on my friends and I research to help reduce the noise level so things like moving cables away form each other have less effect on your game.
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Thanks mate!

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Stupid stupid windows. I've had this damn problem for 2 long years. This solved 90% of my input lag. I assume it has something to do with their spying. I was even using Win 10 LTSC 2019 1809. Then again I felt the same lag on my dual boot win7. Dam microsoft, NSA, obamaware. Can confirm the input lag is on English Canada as well. So far the best I tried is English Philippines.
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I realized something from something Microsoft worker said.

xHCI (Extensible Host Controller Interface) Specification for Universal Serial Bus 3.0
Motherboards with USB 3.0 might have a xHCI configuration. It controls how the USB 3.0 ports behave. You can enable it, so USB 3.0 ports always act as USB 3.0
XHCI Mode is Disabled - The on-board USB 3.0 port function like a 2.0 port
XHCI Mode is Enabled - The on-board USB 3.0 port function like a 3.0 port

For reference: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...9-8441032b6771

If your Motherboard has an xHCI setting in BIOS and you want the USB Ports to function as USB 3.0 in Windows 10, set your xHCI hand off to enabled.


You may need a driver from the manufacturer. This is turning over control of the port from BIOS to OS.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...6-4d20056ae65c



If you xHCI Hand-off Enabled then means it would Force the USB port to use 3.0/3.1 all the time no matter what device plugged.

So if I understand correctly. If xHCI hand off Disabled with Windows 10 and if I have the Drivers installed then it would automatically know which USB is plugged and give the correct Tech/Speed for it, meaning USB 2.0 will behave exactly like USB 2.0 without any buffering or USB 3.0/3.1 Tech.

So when we do that we will have the correct speed for mouse/keyboard eliminating any lag input USB 3.0/3.1 Tech deliveries to our USB 2.0 devices.

Now the only big issue we might have is that Microsoft has it's own USB Drivers for Intel/AMD, so I don't know what will happen when we xHCI Hand off Disabled and use Microsoft built-in drivers instead installing the AMD USB drivers, but they don't installed easy and you need to force them, so I can't see how it would be correct.

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CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
A...



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Quote: Originally Posted by RamenRider View Post
Stupid stupid windows. I've had this damn problem for 2 long years. This solved 90% of my input lag. I assume it has something to do with their spying. I was even using Win 10 LTSC 2019 1809. Then again I felt the same lag on my dual boot win7. Dam microsoft, NSA, obamaware. Can confirm the input lag is on English Canada as well. So far the best I tried is English Philippines.

I didn't understand the test here.

I have English United States keyboard US and Hebrew.

I have the Language Icon near the clock. What should I need to change because I notice I have some weird lags in Heroes Of The Storm, can't be sure but I think it's there.

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CPU :AMD 1950X @ 3.7 Ghz 1.280
MOBO : Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0)
RAM : G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GBx4 DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
GPU :INNO3D Nvidia GeForce GTX1080 8G D5 1759Mhz iChill X3
Sound Card For 5.1 Speakers : Asus Strix RAID DLX
Network Card : SolareFlare SFN6122F SFP+ 10Gbit Dual Port PCIEx4
PSU : ThermalTake 850Watt ToughPower
STORAGE
SanDisk Extreme PRO SSD 480Gb OS
WD Gold 6TB DataCenter 7200 128MB DATA/GAMEZ
Seagate 5TB Enterprise 7200 128MB (ST5000NM0024) DATA/GAMEZ
Samsung x2 1TB 7200 RAID0 GAMEZ
Segate 3TB Backup+ Desktop USB External BACKUP

GEAR and Sound
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
TV : LG OLED55C6 TV
Mouse : Logitech G502
Mouse Pad : SteelSeries I-2 Black
Keyboard : Corsair Gaming K70 RAPIDFIRE
GamePad : Xbox Elite Controller + Xbox Wireless Adapter
Headphones : Beyerdynamic DT990 600 Ohms
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