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post #16911 of 16931 (permalink) Old 01-04-2020, 10:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
So you recommend trying a different FSB value to see if anything over 2400/2666 boots?
I actually ran my 1st Corsair 3000C15 Kit on 125 Strap for the 1st year or so until KedarWolf Posted some timings here on the Forum for me
to use at 3200 on 100FSB. However I am only running 4x8GB , as I knew when buying that not all 16GB chips were created equal and I didn't
want compatibility issues. That Kit started have issues at default 1.35v and higher so Corsair replaced it , so I now just run the new Kit at
2666mhz but 1T not 2 with everything at default except voltage bumped a little to support the 1T though honestly I don't know it it needs
it but I usually don't mess much with RAM OCing as my knowledge on it isn't deep enough on the X99 Platform.

I tried XMP at 1st but the voltages freaked me out and I didn't understand then, how or why XMP could change the strap to 125.
The Voltage issues as Thashzone pointed out lead me to run 125 still but not XMP, with all voltages locked down to default values ,
at least till I started playing with the OC on my 5820K.

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Yeah broadwell-e bios does way different voltages than haswell-e bios ever did
On my sabertooth old or not I'm still on last haswell-e bios 2101 released 1-06-2016 !

ASUS reuses bios numbers some new broadwell-e bios for other boards are also numbered 2101 lol very much not the same

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Quote: Originally Posted by Kbird View Post
This is the Kit Corsair sent me a few months ago suitable for X99 , it runs nicely at 2666mhz 1.23v 1T ( X99 has a memory hole at 3000 on 100 FSB )

I'm not using XMP and Thaiphoon says it is Samsung B-Die or was when I got mine....

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Catego...2GX4M4C3000C15

I don't think any MB Manuf. will have updated QVL on all the new Ram from the last 3yrs .....

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I have the same kit (also running at 2666, 1T, 1.22V) and it's not Samsung B-die. Guess you were lucky. My cpu won't boot at all any higher (2800,3000,3200) at the 100 or 125 strap. It's very stable, save for freezes when booting up windows after disconnecting the PSU from the mains, specially during the winter.

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Quote: Originally Posted by cloppy007 View Post
I have the same kit (also running at 2666, 1T, 1.22V) and it's not Samsung B-die. Guess you were lucky. My cpu won't boot at all any higher (2800,3000,3200) at the 100 or 125 strap. It's very stable, save for freezes when booting up windows after disconnecting the PSU from the mains, specially during the winter.
..

After 1 set failing overtime I decided not to push the Ram too hard, especially since at 2666 it is good with 1T and tighter timings 15-15-15-36 @1.25 currently (which are the 2133mhz timings, (1066) I believe listed in CPUz , so I gave them a try) and figure it is likely as good as at 3000 anyway..... ([email protected] 35)

P.S. FYI mine don't boot at 2800/3000 either due to the X99 issues mentioned above and I decided not to use 3200 again after the 1st Set failure.

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What do you mean odd memory ratio?
The kit is 3000C15 B-die (4x16GB), can't even get it to boot at 2800/2933 (20-20-20-44 2T 1.4v) at strap 100.
8x16GB loses channel 3 even with 2133 20-20-20-44 2T 1.4v 100 strap. So only reading channel 1-2-4 with total 96GB.
VCCSA / VCCIO (imc) is set at 1.19v, CPU reverted back to stock settings.
Changing strap requires reconfiguration of CPU multipliers or?
(all those extra carriage returns in your post are deleted in the quote, so I don;t have to hunt for a sentence - why do that?)
The memory ratio (or memory multiplier) is the ratio between BCLK(strap) and the frequency (Hz) not the ram speed (eg, 2666, or 3000 etc), or data rate (DDRx). THe ram frequency is shown in CPUZ, the speed is double the frequency).
So for 2666 on strap 100, the ratio is 133, on 125 strap, it is an "odd ratio" (x99 only does 100 and 133 "dividers"). On your MB, the best ratios are 2666/100, 3200/100, 2800/100(?), 2750/125, 3400/100. About the same as x79 (just from "recollection").
A very crude way to determine if a ram kit is actually faster as a starting point is to divide the frequency by CAS. So..
4000cas17 ~ 235
3600cas16 ~ 225
3600cas17 ~ 212
2666cas12 ~ 222 and...
3000cas15 ~ 200 (which is the "slowest" in this list)
This is the theoretical data rate (higher is better). The higher the freq/cas ratio... the better the "bin" for the rated speed (this will not reflect overclocking headroom or voltage-frequency scaling above the rated speed)

Speed is not bandwidth. Think of bandwidth as lanes on a highway, with everybody driving the same speed. More lanes (channels) higher bandwidth, but the "speed" is the same whether it's 2 lanes (dual channel) or 4 (quad channel) running the same frequency and primary timings. Of course secondary and 3rd timings will impact any measure of ram performance...

On x99 quad channel (socket 2011-3) with a good cpu and decent ram ICs (20nm B or 17nm D die, 8GB sticks) most x99 boards can do 3200 some can do 3400 at 1.45V or less. 16GB sticks on x99 will always be a challenge at 2666 and higher.
Eh, it's a really dense subject, and unless we invest the time, tuning can be a real rabbit hole. You can get a lot of info and examples in the Intel 24/7 ram thread here at OCN.

2666 with as low a cas as you can get is just fine. running a higher frequency with a higher cas may not improve performance at all

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I have the same kit (also running at 2666, 1T, 1.22V) and it's not Samsung B-die. Guess you were lucky. My cpu won't boot at all any higher (2800,3000,3200) at the 100 or 125 strap. It's very stable, save for freezes when booting up windows after disconnecting the PSU from the mains, specially during the winter.
for that "cold" boot freeze, is PLL overvoltage enabled? Or have you tried setting a higher set of "boot" (only) voltages if your MB has those options?

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So today finally after week of waiting for my DDR4 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M4A2666C16R kit arrived
So far everything works fine
The only thing I noticed that when I selected XMP profile it changed strap to 100 and all cores to 3.7ghz , and changed cache
So It should work fine without worries for CPU right ? (i7 5930k) I usually oc it before gaming to 4.4ghz (1.280v)
Also is there any OC that could be done on ram or something to improve if it can or should I just keep it as is
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So today finally after week of waiting for my DDR4 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M4A2666C16R kit arrived
So far everything works fine
The only thing I noticed that when I selected XMP profile it changed strap to 100 and all cores to 3.7ghz , and changed cache
So It should work fine without worries for CPU right ? (i7 5930k) I usually oc it before gaming to 4.4ghz (1.280v)
Also is there any OC that could be done on ram or something to improve if it can or should I just keep it as is
Hi,
You must of okayed multi core enhancement after enabling xmp profile

To bad corsair used micron memory chips on that set
No telling how well it will work over time
One stick always dropped off the planet for me on 2666C15 4x4gb kit though. VER 4.23 good VER 3.21 Bad

Did you notice the VER # on the side of the sticks post it if you don't mind.

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Hi,
You must of okayed multi core enhancement after enabling xmp profile

To bad corsair used micron memory chips on that set
No telling how well it will work over time
One stick always dropped off the planet for me on 2666C15 4x4gb kit though. VER 4.23 good VER 3.21 Bad

Did you notice the VER # on the side of the sticks post it if you don't mind.

Here it is

Very strange my kit from 2014 2x8gb was 3.20 now the same kit I got 2 weeks ago is ver 8.30
and this kit is 3.31

Well at least it works now I just tested FFXV got about 5-10 fps increase it really helps a lot
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Here it is

Very strange my kit from 2014 2x8gb was 3.20 now the same kit I got 2 weeks ago is ver 8.30
and this kit is 3.31

Well at least it works now I just tested FFXV got about 5-10 fps increase it really helps a lot
Hi,
You running a mixed kit ?

Use thaiphoon burner on the VER 3.20 set it's likely samsung instead of micron.

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ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
Other
5.0/https://valid.x86.fr/ez2ifr
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ Koolance VRM block/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Red Dragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
CPU
10900k
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 evo 500gb
Power Supply
EVGA 1000P2
Case
Corsair 450D
Operating System
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