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post #1191 of 1217 (permalink) Old 12-29-2018, 04:50 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Neville0 View Post
New Gigabyte board in the making for the refresh

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...STER-rev-10#kf

X299 AORUS MASTER
8+8 EPS Cable/ CPU power
12 phase cpu vrms (probably 6 phases doubled), ISL69138 based on marketing pics are to be accurate
finned heatsink with heatpipe and rear fan
Back I/O Clear CMOS & Power Button
Dual Bios with switch implementation

That's all that I found relevant to the discussion unless bios software and support is inscope. Unsure of long term and redesign/rework support in that area.

It looks to be alot more favorable than the current Gigabyte boards so far
Looking for an Asus Apex or Extreme, but this is tempting.

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Rampage VI Extreme Omega VRM and heatsink pictures below. ASP1405I 8x PWM outputs to 16x IR3555 (no doubling).
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Rampage VI Extreme Omega VRM and heatsink pictures below. ASP1405I 8x PWM outputs to 16x IR3555 (no doubling).
It's the next Rampage VI Extreme ?

I wonder if there will be waterblock for the VRMs and if the VRM rad will be "separated" from the I / O block (like the current R6E)

EDIT: seems "smaller" (3 slots "pcie x16")

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Rampage VI Extreme Omega VRM and heatsink pictures below. ASP1405I 8x PWM outputs to 16x IR3555 (no doubling).
Impressive for sure. I know there are a lot of haters of the new Rampage out there, but it looks to be a powerhouse with good looks to boot. If I don't find an Extreme, I'll be one of the first in line for this board.

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Do it soon as there maybe scalpers like there was for the Apex.

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Thanks elmor


Also I saw a PrimeX299-DELUXE II review is up http://blog.livedoor.jp/wisteriear/a...073304650.html
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By using ASUS PRIME X299 - DELUXE II motherboard, we were able to clear the stress test with Core i9 7980XE on all cores at the same time 4.4 GHz, mesh 3.0 GHz, memory 3600 MHz OC.The fan speed of the CPU cooler is fixed at 1600 RPM. Even though the software monitoring value of the VRM power supply temperature is turned at 1500 RPM with a 120 mm fan as a spot cooler, it is excellent condition that it is less than 60 degrees for 500 W class load.


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We have OC Core i9 7980 XE at 4.4 GHz for all cores, plus the memory frequency at 3600 MHz, but it fell within around 90 degrees when the spot cooler is not used for the VRM power supply. Although it is high temperature, it is quite highly evaluated in the early X299 motherboard, in the heat over of the VRM power supply temperature, waiting for the throttling of the core clock, without waiting, for passive air cooling against this load it is done at this temperature. Since I knew that it was a sinky load under passive air cooling, I will continue to check about the case where I put the wind on the VRM power supply with the main spot cooler. By turning the 120 mm fan as 1500 RPM as the spot cooler, we were able to keep the VRM power supply temperature below 60 degrees even if loading the Core i 9 7980 XE at 4.4 GHz on all cores and loading for a long time.

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A bit delayed, but here are the results from a bit of testing I did with comparing refresh boards with one of the best first-gen boards Rampage VI Apex.

Same settings confirmed by measuring the CPU Vsense, power consumption and CPU temperature. VRM temperatures were measured by the on-board controller readings and confirmed to be reasonable using an IR thermometer, and are normalized to the measured ambient temperature which was varying 2-3*C over the days the tests took place.


VRM temperatures with fixed airflow

A single mid-RPM 120mm fan was providing airflow over the VRM area.




VRM temperatures in different scenarios

Stock is with the default cooling solution without any active airflow. Passive means I unplugged any built-in VRM fans.




Power consumption, loss and efficiency

Values were calculated by measuring voltage and current both at input and output.




Another thing that's important to check when doing this type of testing is that the CPU is performing the same in all cases and that no throttling is present which would show lower temperatures. On X299 systems the most difficult to account for is Pmax or "phantom throttling". It's recently been added to HWInfo so it's possible to detect if it happens on your system or not. Essentially it kicks in if your Vccin voltage is dropping below a certain level, which is deemed as a good indicator that the CPU is drawing too much power. Asus boards has the "VIN Tracker" option which gets rid of this completely when set to Disabled, if left Auto it will disable it when overclocking from BIOS.



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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Creator-X299/Overview

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