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post #2261 of 2362 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 04:43 AM
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Got my eye on a 9940x wth if micro center drops the price a little all bets are off
B&H had 7960s for 1399. Almost pulled the trigger but I do not want to go through the whole delidding process again. Spent enough money on this rig as it is.

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post #2262 of 2362 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 06:09 AM
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Hi,
Yep delidding instead of returning and refund because of thermal defect was not a good decision on my part.
Could of saved a lot of pain

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Hello,

How do you actually read the true CPU voltage on Asus x299 boards? I am not sure but seems Aisuite and CPU-Z match results with CPU-Z having a higher refresh rate; so is everything just reading the CPU VID? Using HWmonitor CPU Vcore never changes and stays at like 0.8xx Volt but CPU VID matches basically Aisuite and CPU-Z. Problem I am having is I cant tell what my Vdroop is, with manual voltage it ALWAYS reads what I set it too. Changing LLC I know is doing something because my CPU temps change.

What do I need to do to find out actual CPU/Core Volt so I can take advantage of fine tuning my CPU, specifically working with Boost overclocking as well. Today I am using the x299 deluxe ii with BIOS 602. I also noticed this same behavior on the Asus x299 WS Sage. CPU is a 9980xe and 4.4ghz seems good at 1.12v but I would like to get some boost overclocks on 6-8 cores at 4.5-4.6ghz range.

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Hello,

How do you actually read the true CPU voltage on Asus x299 boards? I am not sure but seems Aisuite and CPU-Z match results with CPU-Z having a higher refresh rate; so is everything just reading the CPU VID? Using HWmonitor CPU Vcore never changes and stays at like 0.8xx Volt but CPU VID matches basically Aisuite and CPU-Z. Problem I am having is I cant tell what my Vdroop is, with manual voltage it ALWAYS reads what I set it too. Changing LLC I know is doing something because my CPU temps change.

What do I need to do to find out actual CPU/Core Volt so I can take advantage of fine tuning my CPU, specifically working with Boost overclocking as well. Today I am using the x299 deluxe ii with BIOS 602. I also noticed this same behavior on the Asus x299 WS Sage. CPU is a 9980xe and 4.4ghz seems good at 1.12v but I would like to get some boost overclocks on 6-8 cores at 4.5-4.6ghz range.

Thanks!
on x299 or any platform with a FIVR (fully integrated voltage regulator) the vcore is not directly readable like on an 1151 socket system where it is managed on the MB. LLC on x299 systems acts on the voltage going to the die... VCCIN, not on vcore. Yes, VCCIN will affect temps. You'll also not see and "probeit" voltage read points for vcore on any x299 rig. Use VID vs the vcore setting in bios.

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I get wake up lag when the monitor is turned off after idling for so long on x299 xe board. It doesn't happen if I idle when the monitor is not off.
How to fix and why?

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Am I crazy for considering swapping my 7820X & Asus TUF 299 Mark 1 for the $500 12C24T Ryzen 3900X & new board?

The 7820X TIM limits me to around 4.6 which is still too toasty for my tastes and I’m too nervous to delid (even though I bought the delidder & LM).

The 3900X is only 105w so I’m sure it’ll run cooler...if AMD benches are to be believed the IPC will be a bit higher than the 7820X and have 4 more cores to boot. I’ll likely need new memory since mine is only 2400. Hmm.

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Am I crazy for considering swapping my 7820X & Asus TUF 299 Mark 1 for the $500 12C24T Ryzen 3900X & new board?

The 7820X TIM limits me to around 4.6 which is still too toasty for my tastes and I’m too nervous to delid (even though I bought the delidder & LM).

The 3900X is only 105w so I’m sure it’ll run cooler...if AMD benches are to be believed the IPC will be a bit higher than the 7820X and have 4 more cores to boot. I’ll likely need new memory since mine is only 2400. Hmm.
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Wow if you can get to 4.6 on it not delidded you probably have a good sample
Chicken delid that sucker

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Wow if you can get to 4.6 on it not delidded you probably have a good sample
Chicken delid that sucker
I just looked at my old post, my 7820X was actually ROG RealBench stable at 4.8GHz with a Cinebench R15 score of 2040 but was too warm for my liking, even on an AIO. What frustrates me is even with that OC, a stock 9900K is still quicker and the 3900X will basically be a 12 core 9900K.

AMD is comparing the 3900X to the 9920X stating the Cinebench R20 single thread score bests it by 14% and multi-thread score by 6%. For comparison, that probably puts the R15 multi-thread score around 2930...on 105 watts...for $500!

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I just looked at my old post, my 7820X was actually ROG RealBench stable at 4.8GHz with a Cinebench R15 score of 2040 but was too warm for my liking, even on an AIO. What frustrates me is even with that OC, a stock 9900K is still quicker and the 3900X will basically be a 12 core 9900K.

AMD is comparing the 3900X to the 9920X stating the Cinebench R20 single thread score bests it by 14% and multi-thread score by 6%. For comparison, that probably puts the R15 multi-thread score around 2930...on 105 watts...for $500!
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Well yeah 3900x should be interesting but that amd R20 score was click bate

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Well yeah 3900x should be interesting but that amd R20 score was click bate
I do wonder about that. I'm also concerned going to an AMD system will result in more instability. It just seems like my 7820X should be better than it is. It seems like the 9900K is much better buy. Am I missing something?

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