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post #3191 of 3340 (permalink) Old 02-13-2019, 07:09 PM
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No i'm not.
I may have confused you because we're talking about two topics at the same time--Loadline calibration (one person posted about LLC) and AVX offsets (another person posted about AVX offsets). I only mentioned LLC because that's how the topic came up with Elmor. Do you want the original post? I didn't have his permission to post my PM's in chat and I dont think it's polite to post peoples' conversations publicly.

Also Ultra Extreme LLC is not adding voltage. It's causing massive voltage fluctuation, as much as 80mv *under* the bios setting. The average voltage (tested on DMM) is exactly what is set in the bios.

Anyway tl;dr: People were asking why AVX offsets were causing instability at voltages that should be stable.
Elmor explained this was due to PLL. An Asus engineer on Asus ROG forums explained this precisely. I think it was Raja or Shamino.
What does the software core voltage show compared to the DMM?

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What does the software core voltage show compared to the DMM?
Depends on where you measure the DMM from. :/
You will get different readings if you measure from the MLCC socket caps, than if you measure from VR VOUT directly (VCC sense and VSS sense!).
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Quote: Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
No i'm not.
I may have confused you because we're talking about two topics at the same time--Loadline calibration (one person posted about LLC) and AVX offsets (another person posted about AVX offsets). I only mentioned LLC because that's how the topic came up with Elmor. Do you want the original post? I didn't have his permission to post my PM's in chat and I dont think it's polite to post peoples' conversations publicly.

Also Ultra Extreme LLC is not adding voltage. It's causing massive voltage fluctuation, as much as 80mv *under* the bios setting. The average voltage (tested on DMM) is exactly what is set in the bios.

Anyway tl;dr: People were asking why AVX offsets were causing instability at voltages that should be stable.
Elmor explained this was due to PLL. An Asus engineer on Asus ROG forums explained this precisely. I think it was Raja or Shamino.
Shamino (Peter Tan) explained on ROG forums

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Quote: Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
Depends on where you measure the DMM from. :/
You will get different readings if you measure from the MLCC socket caps, than if you measure from VR VOUT directly (VCC sense and VSS sense!).
Check out buildzoid's video.
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Shamino (Peter Tan) explained on ROG forums
And the fact that there is no +REP button for posts like this is why we can't have nice things
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On a side note, has anyone attempted stacking Adaptive/VID Offsets on TVB with Speedshift and at least C states up to C6 on a "daily stable" overclock on a 9th gen chip?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
No i'm not.
I may have confused you because we're talking about two topics at the same time--Loadline calibration (one person posted about LLC) and AVX offsets (another person posted about AVX offsets). I only mentioned LLC because that's how the topic came up with Elmor. Do you want the original post? I didn't have his permission to post my PM's in chat and I dont think it's polite to post peoples' conversations publicly.

Also Ultra Extreme LLC is not adding voltage. It's causing massive voltage fluctuation, as much as 80mv *under* the bios setting. The average voltage (tested on DMM) is exactly what is set in the bios.

Anyway tl;dr: People were asking why AVX offsets were causing instability at voltages that should be stable.
Elmor explained this was due to PLL. An Asus engineer on Asus ROG forums explained this precisely. I think it was Raja or Shamino.
okay - i stand corrected. I did not make the guardband connection to the posts.

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Quote: Originally Posted by encrypted11 View Post
Shamino (Peter Tan) explained on ROG forums
thanks ! (did you turn your monitor to portrait to make that snip?)

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thanks ! (did you turn your monitor to portrait to make that snip?)
I'm using the Snagit snipping tool by TechSmith. It's able to perform stitching of screenshot images by auto scrolling vertically till the end of a web page

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On a side note, has anyone attempted stacking Adaptive/VID Offsets on TVB with Speedshift and at least C states up to C6 on a "daily stable" overclock on a 9th gen chip?
I was trying this on my 9700K, but (again) the VID is just too high compared to the necessary voltage for my day-driver clocks that I gave up. The only CFL cpu I have that does not suffer the problem is my 8700K ES.
I'll take a wack at it again with a different 9xxxK chip...

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