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post #3671 of 3734 (permalink) Old 11-12-2019, 03:04 AM
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Ok, so what works out better, AVX offset or Power limit overclocking.

I was using power limit, for my 5Ghz, but there was a downside of when doing a x265 encode it would still downclock like prime95, occt small data set and Linx 0.95/

Just did a BIOS update, so I'm about to start dialing in a new OC on the 9900k/Apex XI.

I really need to get this custom loop sorted soon.

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Quote: Originally Posted by schoolofmonkey View Post
Ok, so what works out better, AVX offset or Power limit overclocking.

I was using power limit, for my 5Ghz, but there was a downside of when doing a x265 encode it would still downclock like prime95, occt small data set and Linx 0.95/

Just did a BIOS update, so I'm about to start dialing in a new OC on the 9900k/Apex XI.

I really need to get this custom loop sorted soon.
If I'm not mistaken, the Power limit method will "retard" or fail some loads where an AVX offset would not. But for a mostly gaming rig, I'd go with PL-OC since very few (if any?) games have sustained AVX loads... I guess it all depends on the use case?

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Thanks Falkentyne, great post.
Even being a computer engineer I never got much in detail in the electronic details. Gonna keep studying more.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
If I'm not mistaken, the Power limit method will "retard" or fail some loads where an AVX offset would not. But for a mostly gaming rig, I'd go with PL-OC since very few (if any?) games have sustained AVX loads... I guess it all depends on the use case?
I gonna check today what loads bf gives me on 9900ks, but so far the only game that consistently give me a hard load is bf1/v. Under 144hz+ it hammer all cores and give me a consistent watt load similar to p95 26.

Several compilers are avx aware but you need to actually use vectors for it. Even .net has instructions for it.
Personally I don't bother with avx with games only, even if some game would use it usage would be minimal and not even remotely close to handbrake or even p95 that keeps calling avx on all cores and all threads every second.

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The reason I even botheref updating my bios and resetting the overclock was I kept getting hangs/lock in Red Dead Redemption 2, first though my oc was unstable.
Even had be second guessing my ram, but after 2 full memory test there, they ate fine too.
Turns out its just a unoptimized pile of rubbish at the moment, so I have to dial the oc in again.

Previously was just using power limits, though I did find a avx offset to run cooler, now we're hitting 35 - 40c days in Australia I need to watch the heat, got AC though.

Current I've been just running xmp stock all Auto, yeah it feels so odd, makes you feel dirty...lol

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I gonna check today what loads bf gives me on 9900ks, but so far the only game that consistently give me a hard load is bf1/v. Under 144hz+ it hammer all cores and give me a consistent watt load similar to p95 26.

Several compilers are avx aware but you need to actually use vectors for it. Even .net has instructions for it.
Personally I don't bother with avx with games only, even if some game would use it usage would be minimal and not even remotely close to handbrake or even p95 that keeps calling avx on all cores and all threads every second.
I've only seen this watt load in BF5 on the main menu/loading, when you launch the game. Not once the map loads. 100% all cores load. Not sure what it's doing.

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but so far the only game that consistently give me a hard load is bf1/v.

I know of a few other games with my honey buns that achieve the same effect.

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The reason I even botheref updating my bios and resetting the overclock was I kept getting hangs/lock in Red Dead Redemption 2, first though my oc was unstable.
Even had be second guessing my ram, but after 2 full memory test there, they ate fine too.
Turns out its just a unoptimized pile of rubbish at the moment, so I have to dial the oc in again.

Previously was just using power limits, though I did find a avx offset to run cooler, now we're hitting 35 - 40c days in Australia I need to watch the heat, got AC though.

Current I've been just running xmp stock all Auto, yeah it feels so odd, makes you feel dirty...lol

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So what's the consensus on manual voltage for 24/7 on the 9900k.

Pretty much dialed in my 5Ghz all core with a manual voltage of 1.35v using LLC5, I did have to use a little Power Limit limiter, PL1=200, PL2=220, duration 30 seconds, it only downclocks under Linx 0.95, Prime95 small fft and OCCT Small data set, everything runs at the full 5Ghz, temps are hitting 85c max.

Problem is the moment I go to use Adaptive voltage it introduces instability and I have to up the voltages.

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I have the Apex XI and 9900KS sitting and will be building shortly, do I need to download and install the VGA drivers from the ASUS support site?

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