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post #481 of 576 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 05:36 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by munternet View Post
You would need to supply a little more information. Maybe a timing configurator shot, a hwinfo64 shot, how many ram sticks, what size etc.
You could take a screen of the timing configurator using the xmp settings and then switch over to full manual and use the shot as a general guideline.
You might also be better off posting that information in a memory overclock thread
Another useful place to look is https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...ty-thread.html and get some ideas from other people's settings

Hi, thanks for the reply.

It's Hynix, stock is 3200Mhz, 16-18-18-36, 2 x 8GB

Specs in sig.

Timing configurator shot attached.

Z390 ITX phantom board with 2 RAM slots (supposedly better than quad slot T-topology if using 2 sticks)

Seems to be not a bad overclocker for Hynix.
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post #482 of 576 (permalink) Old 06-28-2019, 01:01 AM - Thread Starter
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If you're running Hynix CJRs this might be helpful.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...l#post27970656

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Quote: Originally Posted by encrypted11 View Post
If you're running Hynix CJRs this might be helpful.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...l#post27970656
Thanks, I can already tell that those settings have unlocked a good bit of potential! I mean it booted right off the bat at 4100Mhz (no guarantee of stability).

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post #484 of 576 (permalink) Old 07-12-2019, 12:08 PM
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Hi there - long time Asrock Extreme board user here (z68, z97, z370). I'm wondering if anyone has experience dropping a 9900k into a Z370 Extreme 4 and how performance went w/ stock and overclocking? I'm concerned about the VRM since it is a z370 chipset. Worth noting my current board overclcocks a delidded 8700K to 5.0 Ghz. Rock solid stability.

CPU: i7-8700K @ 4.8 GHZ Everyday OC.
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 TI XC Hybrid
PSU: EVGA 1000 W G+
MB: Asrock Z370 Extreme 4 BIOS version 4.00
RAM: 32 GB (4x8) Gskill Trident @ 3200 MHZ 14-14-14-34
Storage: Various SATA III, m.2, and PCI-e SSDs.
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Is there any way to boot from b-bios? Asrock Z370 K6. Bios A is working fine, but I'm curious

LE: Nvm, found it. There is a jumper near the 2 bios chips, short it and it will switch to B. It will not boot from B, it will just copy from B to A, but the bios will not be updated if verison A>4.00

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post #486 of 576 (permalink) Old 07-25-2019, 05:59 PM
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Have a Z370 Extreme4 with an 8700K and a 1080 Ti card.

BIOS has been playing up a bit. Was on P3.20 but upgraded to 3.30 after a few issues with the XMP profile not staying activated. Memory is on QVL.

3.30 seemed fine and XMP ok, until Windows 10 1903 update when I started getting random crashes. Nothing else changed apart from Windows.
Reset BIOS to default settings which didn't seem to do anything apart from lose the XMP profile again. Easy to click the XMP back on but even shorting the CMOS pins didn't do anything.

At the same time, my graphic card started overheating when on high load and it had coil whine for a while. Thought crashes were maybe to do with that. Swapped for a brand new Seasonic 750w Power supply. Still crashing so tried card in another PC. No overheating or coil whine but that was with basic testing only.
Put it back in Z370 and crashes started to get worse. Now just restarting PC with no errors or Windows Events.
Installed a fresh Windows 10 and still crashes even though I didn't update to version 1903.

So, I hesitated but upgraded to the newest BIOS, P4.10 to see if that would let me have a completely clean slate regards BIOS settings and help with the crashes.
First flash didn't seem to work, still said P3.30 so tried again and it updated but I cannot reset to factory/default. Nothing happens. Shorted the pins, took the battery out etc but still no luck.
The red light beside BIOS chip A is now on which I don't remember being on before? Is this to show that the A chip is in use or that there is an error? Have seen both being mentioned.

Upshot is, the graphics card probably put me off the scent but is there something wrong with the board? I now have an RMA for the graphics card and an old R9 380 2GB in it. It's slow sloooow!!

Sorry for the long post,
Thanks.

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Finally an ASRock Motherboard Utility that doesn't freeze my PC (Asrock K6 z370) on run:

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1...x.asp#Download

ASRock Motherboard Utility ver:3.0.284

It's listed under AMD motherboard, but works fine on my Intel Z370.
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My K6 z370 vrm **** the bed after 1,5 years. So much for the "great vrm" asrock mobo. Never going to buy this second hand brand again.
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Hello. Thanks for all great info in this thread.
I bought Z370 Taichi since Jan 2018 and have many experience to share with you.

First many of you probably know. Z370 Taichi use ISL69138 as VRM controller so look for VR VOUT instead of Vcore.

Board can do 3866-3900 12-11-11-28-220-1T tight 2V+ with Panram Ninja-V 3000Mhz CL15-17-17-35 (low end B-die).
I expect 4000 or a bit higher on better memory kit like Galax HOF or TridentZ.
4133Mhz 17-18-18-38-350-2T 1.48V is best 24/7 result for this low end B-die kit.

LLC is great for 8700K but for 9900K it drop quiet large amount of voltage (looking at VR VOUT) I set 1.46V in BIOS but during Cinebench it drop to 1.385V.
I wish ASRock can improve LLC1 to match LV.7 ASUS and LLC2 to replace current LLC1.

Generic memory OC is very fun. I have Hynix OEM 2133Mhz RAM (dual ranks AFR) and it can OC to 3500Mhz 16-18-18-38-360-2T 1.38V (higher voltage didn't yield tighter timings or higher frequency for 24/7).
12-17-17-28-350-1T 1.9V is playable for short benching too.

Mixing memory chip is another great job for this board. Kingston Value RAM 2666Mhz that come with Hynix CFR and Micron D9VPP (E-die) together can achieve 3800Mhz 16-23-23-43-1T 1.48V
If that is not enough what about 4 dimm overclocking with 2x dual ranks AFR + 1x single rank CFR + 1x single rank Micron E-die ? 3200Mhz 13-19-19-37-2T 1.48V is another great results.

I have include Thaiphoon Burner / Asrock Timing Config / AIDA64 bandwidth test in the videos.



It is a shame that during 1.5 year I didn't play much with offset because I think it is full of bug like PC not wake up from sleep / idle freeze / not enough voltage under load.
But today I just carefully read this thread again. Several days ago I try -150mv till -40mv with LLC auto. Idle voltage is very high but too low volt under load. That is enough to cause WHEA in HWInfo64.
So today I try -120mv with LLC level 3. Everything seem good. Load voltage is what I like and idle voltage is low too (I enable all C-state / speed shift / speed step etc).

Another thing that I notice is with 8700K 300K VRM frequency (default value) is fine but 9900K at maximum 600K can yield better stability.
I read somewhere on Elmor post about ASUS 500K vs 800K and 800K give better results on undershoot / overshoot.
I wish Asrock can bring back 1M frequency like Z170 OC Formula.

I have custom loop and VRM temp can hit 90C under heavy load. Use small fan and it never exceed 63C even the in the hot day (33-34C ambient).

Something that I curious is about memory slot. As I said before My OEM Hynix can hit 3500 16-18-18-38 24/7 stable. But both stick when populate to slot A2 can hit 3800Mhz at the same timings. One stick is even boot at 3866 !!!
But when I try both on B2 they never exceed 3500 unless I relax primary timing to at least 19-21-21-41 (19-22 19-23 19-25 etc work also). But that doesn't make it stable. Best I can get is 3733 19-21-21-41 but got error with just Super PI run. Never mind memtest.
So slot B2 is weaker than A2 by 300Mhz with dual ranks AFR. Quiet huge.
But it work fine on 3800Mhz with single rank CFR and Micron E-die...

Thanks again for all great info.
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Anyone here own the Z390 Phantom ITX and Corsair H100i have any problems with hoses hitting the ram or heatsink just seeing if anyone has problems before I buy
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