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post #21 of 55 (permalink) Old 05-27-2018, 07:52 AM
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There are 10+core and up processors for HEDT platform and Intel will be releasing a HEDT refresh. HEDT is nor x299 is dead. Same socket and will be compatible with refresh chips.
Lets try some positive posts for a change and not rowing on x299 and this motherboard. All your complaints have simple work arounds or solutions. Again, you didn't pick the right motherboard to meet your expectations or needs.

Back to this board and overclocking.
Working slowly up. By bumping VSA to 1.875, VCCIO to 1.2v and Input to 2. 00v the oc now sits at 48/32 - 1.229v/1.1v and 3600c14 @ 1.45v. Very easy and nothing unexpected. It seems some of those settings in other bios' are not really needed to obtain a good oc. This board and bios is extremely straight forward and really i am beginning to see that as a plus. Less to worry about and lets you efficiently work on an overclock with less distractions.
You don't understand, a 550 euro motherboard has NO RIGHT to miss basic functions and bios options a board 50% of the price has.
X299 is dead for now because most of the boards have severely undersized VRM heatsinks which (hopefully) will be reworked for X399 launch.
Seriously buying X299 now is just throwing money into the bin...

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Quote: Originally Posted by Martin778 View Post
You don't understand...
There is a difference between being opinionated and being rude. Your statement is presumptuous. I understand perfectly well.


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... a 550 euro motherboard has NO RIGHT to miss basic functions and bios options a board 50% of the price has.
Boards like the Dark sell on a different criteria to boards like the Zenith. But I agree the price is steep. This is why I have not purchased... if I get get it in a sale, otherwise I might go ASRock or Supermicro.

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X299 is dead for now because most of the boards have severely undersized VRM heatsinks which (hopefully) will be reworked for X399 launch.
Seriously buying X299 now is just throwing money into the bin...
This is such an out of date opinion. Early X299 boards were indeed dire. But Taichi to Taichi XE, i9 to i9 XE addressed this with 2x ATX8 inputs for CPU rather than just 1x ATX8. Also heatsinks were uprated... besides most people putting on i9s will have custom waterloops most likely and therefore a motherboard mono block meaning VRM cooling is fine. Same blocks available for most other manufacturers. Dark mono block not available but VRM heatsink is more than up to the job. Supermicro VRM heatsink and VRM efficiency excellent.

If you are not interested in the X299 Dark, why are you here? Just to troll?
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There is nothing "missing" on the Dark. It was purposely engineered to be the way it is for various reasons. It is that engineering, choice of high quality components, and the marketplace that sets the price point. I have no issues and found it quite easy to achieve a respectable oc in a very short time. This is the first EVGA motherboard i have owned. Contrary to an opinion that an abundance of different bios settings will make other boards oc or perform better, it simply isnt true. If EVGA has already optimized power phases and other controls in bios and it takes away my need to adjust all kinds settings to get proper performance, thats a plus imo. 8 different levels of LCC are not needed and i personally have ever only used 2 on any of over a dozen other motherboards I own or previously owned. Either you want vid, a slight droop, or none at all, depending on what you are trying to achieve. Efficiency or optimum overclock. Those settings on other boards are needed to combat ineffective LLC and power control. The Dark doesn't seem to need it.
Yes, the Dark is perfectly ready and capable of running any future chips that are compatible, Because it had the correct vrm and power system, that most manufacturers did not, from the start.
In the end its about researching, identifying what you personally need in a component, and making a decision.

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Oh well, got rid of the XE, the DARK is next on the way out. HEDT is just not worth the hassle anymore.

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Oh well, got rid of the XE, the DARK is next on the way out. HEDT is just not worth the hassle anymore.

It's been a little hassle for me, mostly because of poor QC on board manufacturers. Have a Taichi XE with a buggy bios, waiting on a RMA. Had a Gigabyte Ultra Gaming Pro that had a bad memory slot, now I just returned that for the Dark. Couldn't be happier. Microsoft can stick it where the sun don't shine though. Their automated system doesn't believe I changed my hardware, so it's back to full time CentOS for me.


No disrespect Martin, but it sounds to me like you should just go buy a Dell, if tinkering with your gear, to get the most out of it is a hassle...



Was it expensive? Yes. Does it perform to my expectations? Yes. Did it cost as much as a similarly spec'd custom build from one of the custom boutiques out there? Not even close.

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Nah, Dells are too much hassle. He should buy an Apple Mac.
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Buy a mac

Hey I resemble that. Have 4 macs of varying ages. The thing that stopped me from getting anymore of them was the last MacBook pro I bought only having a dual core i7 with HT. The ram is soldered to the damn motherboard. Not doing it anymore.

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So, Im a bit of a noob (ok, a lot) with overclocking. I followed a super micro guide for overclocking x299, and I have a stable oc at 4.5 on a 7900x, with 1.115 vcore, 1.140 mesh @x30, XMP 3600, and a -5 on AVX(s) in Prime95 I hover around 85-90. Anyone have thoughts on this or any pointers? (Besides selling it all, you know who you are...)

Evga x299 Dark, 7900x, 1070ti, Custom loop with 280, and 240 radiators, gpu and cpu block.

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So, Im a bit of a noob (ok, a lot) with overclocking. I followed a super micro guide for overclocking x299, and I have a stable oc at 4.5 on a 7900x, with 1.115 vcore, 1.140 mesh @x30, XMP 3600, and a -5 on AVX(s) in Prime95 I hover around 85-90. Anyone have thoughts on this or any pointers? (Besides selling it all, you know who you are...)

Evga x299 Dark, 7900x, 1070ti, Custom loop with 280, and 240 radiators, gpu and cpu block.
Hi,
All core is a waste of time
Use By core usage instead much easier to deal with and much lower temps
Set the first 4 cores on the list to 45 or 46.... and the last 4 to 3-4 under the first 4 you entered.
vCore you can play with I would usually use adaptive and for say 4.8 like I stated above and use adaptive with -0.001 and turbo -1.120.

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Hi guys,

Anyone know where in the manual or online I can get an explanation of what the tiny LED near the clear CMOS mean? I have a red LED on what seems to be the VCC LED but everything seems fine. Only issue I had with this board was a bad CMOS battery but she has been great after replacing it. Delid 7920x at 4.6ghz/1.24v (30min on RB256 and 30min on OCCT so far). It is my test bench mobo for now until I decide on when I put it in my workstation chassis.


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