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post #4451 of 4668 (permalink) Old 09-15-2019, 03:40 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Arni90 View Post
My experience with B-die.

2x8GB had problems stabilizing at 3600 16-16-16-36, never mind tweaking subtimings, voltage didn't help scaling at all.
4x8GB easily posted at 4000 18-18-18-38, subtimings were easily tweaked, voltage helped scaling down timings.
Sheeee-it.

See my sig, I have had these RAM sticks since 2017. Do they still sell these? I had a lot of trouble getting these to stabilize at 4000 16-17-17-38-2T @ 1.4v, 1.25v VCCIO, 1.27v VCCSA. If I add two more, will it work even though they're of completely different batches (though same model). I want to lower the VCCIO/SA voltages a little.

System seems stable though. It crashed once yesterday unattended for the first time since I built the machine exactly a month ago. I have no idea why. One game crashed to desktop, also first time since I built the machine, no idea why (immediately restarted and ran for hours without a problem though). I upped the Vcore from 1.33 to 1.335 just in case it was CPU, but the RAM has passed Ramtest for many hours before.

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I don't know if I'm using properly my DDR4 kits, but it's working so far so good...

The kits are: G.Skill F4-4266C19D-16GTZR on dual channgel (bay 2 and 4) with XMP ON but no luck working at 4266MHz so I just lowered the frequency to 4000MHz, so XMP ON but on 4000MHz (CL19 19-19-19-39-2T).

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dannyele View Post
I don't know if I'm using properly my DDR4 kits, but it's working so far so good...

The kits are: G.Skill F4-4266C19D-16GTZR on dual channgel (bay 2 and 4) with XMP ON but no luck working at 4266MHz so I just lowered the frequency to 4000MHz, so XMP ON but on 4000MHz (CL19 19-19-19-39-2T).
You could likely tighten the timings a bit since you dropped frequency. Also, may need to adjust VCCIO / VCSA for clocking ram that high.

This is a good reference imo : integralfx GitHub DDR4 OC Guide
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Quote: Originally Posted by Deathtech00 View Post
You could likely tighten the timings a bit since you dropped frequency. Also, may need to adjust VCCIO / VCSA for clocking ram that high.

This is a good reference imo : integralfx GitHub DDR4 OC Guide
Well, actually I dropped the VCCIO around 1.17 and VCSAA about 1.2.


And about the timings, should I use something like 16-20-20-40?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dannyele View Post
Well, actually I dropped the VCCIO around 1.17 and VCSAA about 1.2.


And about the timings, should I use something like 16-20-20-40?
I've got the exact same RAM, CPU and Mobo. Trying to make the kit work at its XMP speed has been an absolute nightmare. I've even asked for an RMA twice from G.Skill, purchased (and returned) another identical kit in order to see if a configuration with four sticks could take advantage of the presumed T-Topology of the board, but with no luck at all. Tweaked everything I could (VCCSA, VCCIO, DRAM Voltage and Termination, secondary and tertiary timings), but every attempt was useless: with four DIMMs filled the system was a bit more stable but errors ultimately showed up. Probably the CPU's Memory controller is too weak, even though in the future I'd like to try my CPU and RAM combo on a RAMoverclocking-wise solid mobo such as a Maximus XI Apex and see how they'll behave.

I'll attach my current settings: they've passed 10000% Karhu RAMTest. Maybe you can try them and see if they are good for you (if so we could even compare AIDA benchmarks)!

X.M.P. ON
Memory Ref Clock: 133
DRAM Voltage: 1.44v
DRAM Termination: Normal
VCCIO: 1.22v
System Agent: 1.23v

Just a note on tWTR_S and tWTR_L. They are driven by tWRRD_dg and tWRRD_sg. So at first leave them on Auto and manually set only the second couple at the lowest number you can without compromising stability (you could try for example my values of 26 and 30 respectively). Then manually set the former in the BIOS after seeing in Asrock timing configurator which value is assigned to them. You'll find far better and more competent information about this in the guide you've been referred to.
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Should I return this kit:

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-2...82E16820232822

and get this:

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-2...82E16820232763

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Quote: Originally Posted by Salve1412 View Post

X.M.P. ON
Memory Ref Clock: 133
DRAM Voltage: 1.44v
DRAM Termination: Normal
VCCIO: 1.22v
System Agent: 1.23v
Oups. Please delete this msg.

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I've just found that 09.09.2019 Gigabyte updated WiFi and BT drivers for Aorus Master. And they updated RGB Fusion.
Can't find any change log info. Could anyone help me with that?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Salve1412 View Post
I've got the exact same RAM, CPU and Mobo. Trying to make the kit work at its XMP speed has been an absolute nightmare. I've even asked for an RMA twice from G.Skill, purchased (and returned) another identical kit in order to see if a configuration with four sticks could take advantage of the presumed T-Topology of the board, but with no luck at all. Tweaked everything I could (VCCSA, VCCIO, DRAM Voltage and Termination, secondary and tertiary timings), but every attempt was useless: with four DIMMs filled the system was a bit more stable but errors ultimately showed up. Probably the CPU's Memory controller is too weak, even though in the future I'd like to try my CPU and RAM combo on a RAMoverclocking-wise solid mobo such as a Maximus XI Apex and see how they'll behave.

I'll attach my current settings: they've passed 10000% Karhu RAMTest. Maybe you can try them and see if they are good for you (if so we could even compare AIDA benchmarks)!

X.M.P. ON
Memory Ref Clock: 133
DRAM Voltage: 1.44v
DRAM Termination: Normal
VCCIO: 1.22v
System Agent: 1.23v

Just a note on tWTR_S and tWTR_L. They are driven by tWRRD_dg and tWRRD_sg. So at first leave them on Auto and manually set only the second couple at the lowest number you can without compromising stability (you could try for example my values of 26 and 30 respectively). Then manually set the former in the BIOS after seeing in Asrock timing configurator which value is assigned to them. You'll find far better and more competent information about this in the guide you've been referred to.
WOW! Thank you!

Will take a look and update!

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