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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 09:57 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Telstar View Post
4 phases with ic doubler aren't "real" 8 phases either.
That said, any of the ROG boards will oc a 9900k to 5,2 without running too hot and better than the z370 counterparts.

But... the Aorus z390s have overengineered VRM (particularly the Master and the Extreme) and are priced very well. Memory overclocking is not the best, though and the bios is less friendly than Asus and Asrock. Pick your poison.
Thanks for the info. LOL it's not making the decision easier though that's for sure. Oh well I have a couple months to figure it out still.

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Ok bringing this back up cause I'm about to push "buy" buttons very soon since some stuff is on sale. I'm planning to go ahead with the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra unless there's any serious reason not to at this point (like something new came out) and pair it with a 9700K and 2x16GB sticks of DDR4. I was watching a z390 roundup on Gamer's Nexus channel and it sounds like Gigabyte is definitely the way to go just because of the VRM's on all their boards. I thought about trying to save a bit and go with the Pro but 4 vs 6 layer PCB and the front panel USB C is gen 1 vs gen 2 on the Ultra. Since I'm planning to keep this stuff for around 3 years again or so I figure I should skip the Pro just because even if I don't use all the Ultra features right away, who knows what the future is going to bring.

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Everything recommended here are still good recommendations, the Aorus Ultra is a good choice. The Taichi is back down to a more reasonable $199 if you want to save a buck.

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Everything recommended here are still good recommendations, the Aorus Ultra is a good choice. The Taichi is back down to a more reasonable $199 if you want to save a buck.
Yeah I saw that, and the Ultimate is on sale for 230 also. One thing keeping me on the Gigabyte is the extra couple rear panel USB's. I'm starting to get a lot of USB stuff (not necessarily on all the time though) that also apparently are things that shouldn't go in an external USB hub so the extra breathing room would be nice. Right now I have 7/8 ports in use on my Maximus VII Formula. The Taichi has 7 ports plus the USB C, the Gigabyte boards have 9 plus the USB C. In case I'm wrong on the hub thing though here's the list of stuff currently connected...

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If I had to buy today Taichi Ultimate hands down. Great price and for me at least I wouldn't be missing a thing.

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Not to hijack someone's thread but I will be getting a 9900k it looks like with my Intel employee discount.

I see the Auros and Taichi. I don't mind paying slightly more for the Auros. But I have been out of the game for a while. Since 2010 when I build my current X58.

I see that the PCI-E 3.0 but only 8x8x when running SLI. IN the future should I decide to go that route, wouldn't I be bottlenecking the cards with PCI E x8x8. I'm shocked that these higher end boards only give you 8x8x instead of 16x16x

Also what is this stuff about VRMs and does the Gigabyte Auros have enough for 5Ghz on a 9900k?

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Quote: Originally Posted by junglechocolate View Post
Not to hijack someone's thread but I will be getting a 9900k it looks like with my Intel employee discount.

I see the Auros and Taichi. I don't mind paying slightly more for the Auros. But I have been out of the game for a while. Since 2010 when I build my current X58.

I see that the PCI-E 3.0 but only 8x8x when running SLI. IN the future should I decide to go that route, wouldn't I be bottlenecking the cards with PCI E x8x8. I'm shocked that these higher end boards only give you 8x8x instead of 16x16x

Also what is this stuff about VRMs and does the Gigabyte Auros have enough for 5Ghz on a 9900k?
From what I've been reading Gigabyte has the strongest VRM's across the product range on the Z390 boards so if a board can do it, sounds like it would for sure be one of the Aorus boards. As far as the PCIE thing, you need a board with that extra chip to get multiple 16x like that. This time around there's apparently only two, and they're not exactly great at least in the opinion of the review video I was watching. I don't do SLI though so I guess that saves me some hassle. I guess they try to push you to the socket 2xxx stuff for that since that's the more extreme platform vs 11xx is the more mainstream one.

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Quote: Originally Posted by junglechocolate View Post
Not to hijack someone's thread but I will be getting a 9900k it looks like with my Intel employee discount.

I see the Auros and Taichi. I don't mind paying slightly more for the Auros. But I have been out of the game for a while. Since 2010 when I build my current X58.

I see that the PCI-E 3.0 but only 8x8x when running SLI. IN the future should I decide to go that route, wouldn't I be bottlenecking the cards with PCI E x8x8. I'm shocked that these higher end boards only give you 8x8x instead of 16x16x

Also what is this stuff about VRMs and does the Gigabyte Auros have enough for 5Ghz on a 9900k?

More an issue with the 9900K only having 16 PCI-E lanes. If you want more you either need a HEDT platform or a motherboard with a PLX chip (like the WS Z390 Pro).

Aorus and Taichi are both plenty for 5.0. I've benched my 9900K at 1.45v without much issue on my Taichi.

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From what I've been reading Gigabyte has the strongest VRM's across the product range on the Z390 boards so if a board can do it, sounds like it would for sure be one of the Aorus boards. As far as the PCIE thing, you need a board with that extra chip to get multiple 16x like that. This time around there's apparently only two, and they're not exactly great at least in the opinion of the review video I was watching. I don't do SLI though so I guess that saves me some hassle. I guess they try to push you to the socket 2xxx stuff for that since that's the more extreme platform vs 11xx is the more mainstream one.
Jesus what is Intel doing? high end mainstream back in 2010 used to mean having high end options available to you. My old Asrock X58 could do PCIE 2.0x16 x16. and 4C 8HT. now i hear i7s no longer have HT.

I'm gonna wait and see how Ryzen 3 is then. Thats BS. I might need to SLI or CFX in the future and I don't need bottlencks.

What is this socket 2xxx thing you speak of? Can a 9900k be ran on it? I'm going for the strongest IPC value I can get because of 3D Vision quirks.

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Jesus what is Intel doing? high end mainstream back in 2010 used to mean having high end options available to you. My old Asrock X58 could do PCIE 2.0x16 x16. and 4C 8HT. now i hear i7s no longer have HT.

I'm gonna wait and see how Ryzen 3 is then. Thats BS. I might need to SLI or CFX in the future and I don't need bottlencks.

What is this socket 2xxx thing you speak of? Can a 9900k be ran on it? I'm going for the strongest IPC value I can get because of 3D Vision quirks.
So the X58 was a socket 1366 back when the 1156 socket was the mainstream board. Socket 2066 is the new version of that and uses the X299 boards and supports multiple PCIE x16 lanes like you're after.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...STMATCH&page=1

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