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Best Z390 Motherboard?

Hey All,

Looking for some advice on picking up a Z390 motherboard. Anything available with the following features?

-Can handle subzero cooling without cold bugging (will be run with a chiller around -30C) and somewhat easy to insulate
-Has the VRM to support a 9900K at 5.5 GHz+
-Can run 2 GPUs at x8/x8 as well as an NVMe SSD. 4 slot GPU spacing would be nice, but can work with 3 slot.
-Can disable specific cores / hyperthreading and can customize voltage/clock speed per core
-Preferably not made by Asus. Nothing against Asus, but have used Asus boards exclusively since 2002, would like to try something different. Maybe Gigabyte, Asrock, or EVGA?

It looks like the EVGA Z390 Dark would work, but at $500 is a lot of money for a "mainstream" board. Any others I should consider?

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Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme maybe? I'd probably go for the Asus Maximus XI Extreme if it was my money though.

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My wallet voted for the EVGA Dark...so far so good.

Does the 9900k support per core voltage control? I know some asus x299 boards did, but I am not sure of any z390 boards that do.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme maybe? I'd probably go for the Asus Maximus XI Extreme if it was my money though.
$550-600 is a lot for "mainstream" lol if I decide to spend that much I'd probably go for the Dark

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Quote: Originally Posted by TahoeDust View Post
My wallet voted for the EVGA Dark...so far so good.

Does the 9900k support per core voltage control? I know some asus x299 boards did, but I am not sure of any z390 boards that do.
My Asus Rampage VI Apex supports per core voltage control, lots of fun to fine tune and stress test the voltage on 18 individual core

Maybe Z390 does not have that capability, I'm not sure to be honest.

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Motherboard
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Trident Z 16gb 3200c14 @ 3800c16 1.50V (the other two sticks were sacrificed)
Hard Drive
960 Evo 1TB
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EVGA 1600 T2
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
My Asus Rampage VI Apex supports per core voltage control, lots of fun to fine tune and stress test the voltage on 18 individual core

Maybe Z390 does not have that capability, I'm not sure to be honest.
There's no per-core anything on Z390 (voltage, clocks, disabling). You can set staggered clocks (higher boost when more cores are idle), but all cores run at the same clock at any given time.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
My Asus Rampage VI Apex supports per core voltage control, lots of fun to fine tune and stress test the voltage on 18 individual core

Maybe Z390 does not have that capability, I'm not sure to be honest.
Yeah, that is one of the features that I liked about my Asus x299 Prime Deluxe that was missing from my Gigabyte x299 Aorus Gaming 7 and EVGA x299 Dark. The x299 Dark is an amazingly good board though and is what made me buy my z390 Dark. My z390 Dark board overclocks like a dream. The voltage control is point and shoot....tell it what you want, set -25% vDroop, and it will give you your commanded voltage =/- 10mv regardless of load. It has my 9900k running Prime95 w/ AVX and everything else stable at 5.1 0 AVX offset @1.325v with memory 4200 17-17-17-37.

Your RVI APex tells me you should drop the coin and buy the Dark. It's a sick board... https://imgur.com/a/bz2KYUv

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There's no per-core anything on Z390 (voltage, clocks, disabling). You can set staggered clocks (higher boost when more cores are idle), but all cores run at the same clock at any given time.
Interesting, good thing I asked then lol. It looks like the Gigabyte Z390 boards, for example, can reduce the total number of cores running, but the user can't specifically select which cores. I use this when running certain games and benchmarks that only use 4-6 cores, to allow for maximum clock speeds.

On Skylake-X, I will specifically disable the hottest running cores. The difference between the hottest and coolest cores on Skylake-X can be higher than 20C. The difference seems to be much less on a 9900K (maybe 6C), so it's probably of less use.
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Z390 Station
(11 items)
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7980XE @ 4.3 GHz 1.10v
Motherboard
Asus Rampage VI Apex
GPU
2 x Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 Ti @ 2037/6318
RAM
Trident Z 16gb 3200c14 @ 3800c16 1.50V (the other two sticks were sacrificed)
Hard Drive
960 Evo 1TB
Power Supply
EVGA 1600 T2
Cooling
HWLabs GTR 420+280 Rads
Cooling
7 x Noctua Industrial 140mm 3000 RPM Fans
Cooling
EK D5 Pump/Res (with RGB!)
Case
LD Cooling PC-V7
Operating System
Linux Mint 19.6
Monitor
NEC PA271W
Keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
Mouse
Logitech M510
Mousepad
anime tiddy mousepad
CPU
9900K @ 5.4 1.50v
Motherboard
EVGA Z390 Dark
GPU
Titan RTX 2085/8500
RAM
Trident Z 3200c14 @ 4600c20 1.5v
Hard Drive
970 Evo Plus 250gb
Power Supply
silverstone 1200 from 2008 (other one exploded)
Cooling
HWLabs GTX 360 Rad (in RED)
Cooling
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Case
Dimastech Test Bench
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AOC Agon AG251FZ 240Hz
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You have 2 options

Aorus Xtreme
Evga Dark

Both are considered to be top boards of Z390. Dark is suited for more pro overclock. ram oc and the things you mentioned.

Aorus Xtreme have best VRM cooling in z390, I use it 5.0 1.240V 24/7 and VRMS never exceed 40C ( i used thermal camera)
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