Motherboard suggestions for O/Cing a 9900kf - Page 3 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

Motherboard suggestions for O/Cing a 9900kf

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 03:38 PM
Hardware Princess
 
Hydroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 1,404
Rep: 22 (Unique: 20)
EVGA Z390 Dark, I run my 9900K at 5.5 on a chiller and 4133 memory. A lot of money for a "mainstream" board but I feel it was worth it. The $200-250 Gigabyte board and the ASRock Taichi/Ultimate are good as well.

CHILLER DESTRUCTION
Build Log - White Voodoo
Z390 Station
(10 items)
White Voodoo
(14 items)
CPU
9900K @ 5.5 1.46v
Motherboard
EVGA Z390 Dark
GPU
Titan RTX 2085/8500
RAM
Trident Z 3200c14 @ 4133c16 1.5v
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250gb
Power Supply
EVGA 1300 G2
Cooling
Dehumidifier
Case
Dimastech Test Bench
Monitor
AOC Agon AG251FZ 240Hz
Audio
Built-in Monitor Speakers (3 watt)
CPU
Intel Core i9-7980XE @ 4.3 GHz 1.10v
Motherboard
Asus Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 Ti SLI 2037/6318 1.09V
RAM
Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) 3200C14 @ 3800C16 1.50V
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB
Power Supply
EVGA 1600 T2
Cooling
HWLabs Nemesis GTR 420+280 Rads
Cooling
(7) Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Cooling
EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM
Case
LD Cooling PC-V7 280/420
Operating System
Windows 10 LTSB
Operating System
Linux Mint 19.1
Monitor
NEC PA271W 2560x1440
Keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
CPU
Dual Intel Xeon L5520 2.26 GHz
RAM
48 GB Samsung DDR3-1066
Hard Drive
120 GB Samsung 750 Evo SSD
Hard Drive
2 TB Western Digital Green
Hard Drive
2 TB Hitachi 7200 RPM
Power Supply
650W Delta PSU
Case
1U Rackmount
Operating System
Ubuntu Server 16.04
▲ hide details ▲
Hydroplane is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 04:53 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
KingUniverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 224
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
EVGA Z390 Dark, I run my 9900K at 5.5 on a chiller and 4133 memory. A lot of money for a "mainstream" board but I feel it was worth it. The $200-250 Gigabyte board and the ASRock Taichi/Ultimate are good as well.
I'm really leaning towards an ROG board, more cosmetic than anything, being that my NVLink is ROG and RGB sync compatible. I'm just wondering if the Strix z390-H or Maximus XI Hero is enough to OC a 9900k.
KingUniverse is offline  
post #23 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 05:13 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
KingUniverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 224
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Your best bet would be x299 or x399 since both z390/x570 do not have enough PCI-e lanes for two 2080 Tis.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3...idth-x16-vs-x8
There's a negligible loss (1-3%) from PCIe saturation when running NVLink 2080Ti's, but certainly not enough to warrant buying an HEDT setup.
KingUniverse is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #24 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 05:19 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
KingUniverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 224
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
No it doesn't, that's why it now cost less than the 9900K. If that was the case Silicon Lottery would have higher binned chips.

https://siliconlottery.com/collectio...ntel-i9-9900kf

Tom's Hardware got a cherry picked sample that does the same clock as mine at the same exact voltage.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...cs,6004-2.html
https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r

The 9900K's from Silicon Lottery are being sold at the same KF clocks, but almost $100 more for 5.1 (as well as being sold out)

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ison,6038.html

Also an article that refutes your previous statement, and backs the fact that, at least in this sample, the KF SKU overclocks better than a standard K
KingUniverse is offline  
post #25 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 06:36 PM
sudo apt install sl
 
WannaBeOCer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,942
Rep: 166 (Unique: 118)
Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r

The 9900K's from Silicon Lottery are being sold at the same KF clocks, but almost $100 more for 5.1 (as well as being sold out)

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ison,6038.html

Also an article that refutes your previous statement, and backs the fact that, at least in this sample, the KF SKU overclocks better than a standard K
They are selling for $100 more because they aren't defective chips. They have the iGPU while the 9900KF doesn't. It's the same reason why the 9900K cost more than the 9900KF. The only chip that will be binned is the 9900KS. The only binning they are doing is to see which chips have a working iGPU.

Silent
(20 items)
CPU
Core i9 9900K... CoffeeTime! @ 4.2Ghz w/ 1v
Motherboard
Maximus VIII Formula
GPU
Radeon VII @ 1900Mhz/1250Mhz w/ 1v
RAM
TeamGroup Xtreem 16GB 3866Mhz CL15
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNova 1200w P2
Cooling
EK Supremacy Full Copper Clean
Cooling
XSPC D5 Photon v2
Cooling
Black Ice Gen 2 GTX360 x2
Cooling
EK-Vector Radeon VII - Copper + Plexi
Case
Thermaltake Core X5 Tempered Glass Edition
Operating System
Clear Linux
Monitor
Acer XF270HUA
Keyboard
Cherry MX Board 6.0
Mouse
Logitech G600
Mouse
Alugraphics GamerArt
Audio
Definitive Technology Incline
Audio
SMSL M8A
▲ hide details ▲
WannaBeOCer is offline  
post #26 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 06:41 PM
9 Cans of Ravioli
 
The Pook's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 16,094
Rep: 1001 (Unique: 607)
on Amazon the 9900KF is $439, 9900K is $489.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684...1&s=pc&sr=1-14

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900...=1&s=pc&sr=1-2

If there was any binning I'd assume it'd at least make them the same price given that it's lacking IGP.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
2 OP pls nerf
(24 items)
NUC U
(10 items)
CPU
i9 9900K
Motherboard
AsRock Z390 Taichi
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
Hard Drive
HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Sandisk Ultra II 480GB SSD
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Hard Drive
Western Digital EZRZ 3TB
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU
Monitor
Dell E2311H
Keyboard
CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S
Mouse
Logitech G502
Audio
SMSL SA50 + FiiO E10K
Audio
Micca RB42
Audio
Polk Audio PSW111
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
Audio
Philips SHP9500S
Audio
Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
GPU
Iris Plus 655
RAM
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400
Hard Drive
Dierka K1 120GB
Hard Drive
ADATA SU800 128GB M.2
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional
Operating System
MX Linux
Keyboard
Rii RKM709 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech M510
CPU
i7 860
Motherboard
Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
GPU
EVGA GTX 950 2GB
RAM
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
Hard Drive
Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
Power Supply
Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
Cooling
Arctic Alpine 11 GT 2
Case
Silverstone Milo Z ML07B
Operating System
Windows XP x86 SP3
Keyboard
Velocifire TKL01 Outemu Browns
Mouse
Logitech M512
▲ hide details ▲


The Pook is online now  
post #27 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 07:14 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
KingUniverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 224
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
on Amazon the 9900KF is $439, 9900K is $489.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684...1&s=pc&sr=1-14

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900...=1&s=pc&sr=1-2

If there was any binning I'd assume it'd at least make them the same price given that it's lacking IGP.


The comment about KF SKU's is just from what I've read/seen from O/Cers and the consensus that the KF generally O/C's higher than a standard K (some theories are that the iGPU being disabled/broken helps with power/stability/heat). It's been observed by more than one individual with decent sample sizes. Not sure where the confusion came about KF SKU's being binned.

Obviously I understand that the KF SKU in and of itself doesn't guarantee any clock speeds, and isn't being binned (except by Silicon Lottery).

The KS definitely seems more fitting for what I'm looking for, but if the price point isn't there, I may just take my chances with an Amazon K or KF and see where I can get with it. From what I've read, the newer steppings are hitting 5.0+ quite frequently. If all else fails, Silicon Lottery is selling 5.0 KF's for a decent price.
KingUniverse is offline  
post #28 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 08:14 PM
9 Cans of Ravioli
 
The Pook's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 16,094
Rep: 1001 (Unique: 607)
Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
The comment about KF SKU's is just from what I've read/seen from O/Cers and the consensus that the KF generally O/C's higher than a standard K (some theories are that the iGPU being disabled/broken helps with power/stability/heat). It's been observed by more than one individual with decent sample sizes. Not sure where the confusion came about KF SKU's being binned.

Obviously I understand that the KF SKU in and of itself doesn't guarantee any clock speeds, and isn't being binned (except by Silicon Lottery).

The KS definitely seems more fitting for what I'm looking for, but if the price point isn't there, I may just take my chances with an Amazon K or KF and see where I can get with it. From what I've read, the newer steppings are hitting 5.0+ quite frequently. If all else fails, Silicon Lottery is selling 5.0 KF's for a decent price.

If your only requirement is you want a 9900K that can do 5.0 then you'd be hard pressed to find a chip that can't do that. If you want a 9900K that can do 5.0 with at most 1.3v, then that needs some luck but still isn't incredibly rare either.

I wouldn't pay a penny over retail for a 5.0 binned 9900K/KF. a 5.1/5.2/5.3 binned at 1.3v makes some sense to pay for but not 5.0.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
2 OP pls nerf
(24 items)
NUC U
(10 items)
CPU
i9 9900K
Motherboard
AsRock Z390 Taichi
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
Hard Drive
HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Sandisk Ultra II 480GB SSD
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Hard Drive
Western Digital EZRZ 3TB
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU
Monitor
Dell E2311H
Keyboard
CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S
Mouse
Logitech G502
Audio
SMSL SA50 + FiiO E10K
Audio
Micca RB42
Audio
Polk Audio PSW111
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
Audio
Philips SHP9500S
Audio
Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
GPU
Iris Plus 655
RAM
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400
Hard Drive
Dierka K1 120GB
Hard Drive
ADATA SU800 128GB M.2
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional
Operating System
MX Linux
Keyboard
Rii RKM709 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech M510
CPU
i7 860
Motherboard
Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
GPU
EVGA GTX 950 2GB
RAM
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
Hard Drive
Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
Power Supply
Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
Cooling
Arctic Alpine 11 GT 2
Case
Silverstone Milo Z ML07B
Operating System
Windows XP x86 SP3
Keyboard
Velocifire TKL01 Outemu Browns
Mouse
Logitech M512
▲ hide details ▲


The Pook is online now  
post #29 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 09:01 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
KingUniverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 224
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
If your only requirement is you want a 9900K that can do 5.0 then you'd be hard pressed to find a chip that can't do that. If you want a 9900K that can do 5.0 with at most 1.3v, then that needs some luck but still isn't incredibly rare either.

I wouldn't pay a penny over retail for a 5.0 binned 9900K/KF. a 5.1/5.2/5.3 binned at 1.3v makes some sense to pay for but not 5.0.
I think I'm going to get a KF from Amazon and see what clocks I get. I just need to nail down which board I'm getting. Found some B-Die 3600 Trident Z.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4V82FW..._EjwjDbY558YD9

Is that a good pair, or any other suggestions? I would love to hit 5GHz on my RAM if at all possible with maybe some more higher end modules?

Also, I'm still heavily leaning towards the Strix z390-H or Maximus XI Hero. Will those work?
KingUniverse is offline  
post #30 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 09:07 PM
sudo apt install sl
 
WannaBeOCer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,942
Rep: 166 (Unique: 118)
Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
I think I'm going to get a KF from Amazon and see what clocks I get. I just need to nail down which board I'm getting. Found some B-Die 3600 Trident Z.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4V82FW..._EjwjDbY558YD9

Is that a good pair, or any other suggestions? I would love to hit 5GHz on my RAM if at all possible with maybe some more higher end modules?

Also, I'm still heavily leaning towards the Strix z390-H or Maximus XI Hero. Will those work?
If you don't care for RGB, save some money and get some TeamGroup Xtreem memory.

I've ordered 4 of these and so far all have been B-Die memory.

https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288...82E16820331244

Silent
(20 items)
CPU
Core i9 9900K... CoffeeTime! @ 4.2Ghz w/ 1v
Motherboard
Maximus VIII Formula
GPU
Radeon VII @ 1900Mhz/1250Mhz w/ 1v
RAM
TeamGroup Xtreem 16GB 3866Mhz CL15
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNova 1200w P2
Cooling
EK Supremacy Full Copper Clean
Cooling
XSPC D5 Photon v2
Cooling
Black Ice Gen 2 GTX360 x2
Cooling
EK-Vector Radeon VII - Copper + Plexi
Case
Thermaltake Core X5 Tempered Glass Edition
Operating System
Clear Linux
Monitor
Acer XF270HUA
Keyboard
Cherry MX Board 6.0
Mouse
Logitech G600
Mouse
Alugraphics GamerArt
Audio
Definitive Technology Incline
Audio
SMSL M8A
▲ hide details ▲
WannaBeOCer is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off