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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-26-2020, 09:42 AM - Thread Starter
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X299 Dark vs X299 OC Formula

Dear community,
I am in a bit of a quandary. I've got a few 7xxx series chips lying around and I am looking for the best overclocking board available.

I have recently tried the Asus rampage encore and I've hated it. The new bios effed up some functionality and the price was unreasonable.
I am looking for a board that allows me to get the best CPU and memory overclock.
I've narrowed my choice down to the EVGA Dark and the Asrock Oc Formula.

I will be needing four motherboards to keep my chips running 24/7. Every PC will be cooled with four 420 and two 280 radiators in a custom case that is still being designed and created. There will most likely be no additional case fan apart from the push/pull radiator fans. No direct airflow over the VRM heatsink would most likely harm the OCF, but I am not too sure.

Also, I do not do any benchmarks and I do not play games.
I would like to gather some opinions, as to which board is the preferred choice of overclockers.
Furthermore, I have no experience with either Asrock or EVGA.
Any help is appreciated.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-26-2020, 09:43 AM
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Aren't there new X299 boards you could get? You could add a fan to the back of the board to help a bit.
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I really need the PCIe slot layout both boards offer, I was also under the impression that these two are considered to be the best OC boards.

Edit: I already tried the new Rampage board, the only other new board that seems interesting due to the excellent VRMs, is the MSI Creator. However, the Creator is not ideal for me due to the PCIe layout and the eight RAM slots. 64GB will definitely suit me just fine.

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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-26-2020, 12:43 PM
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Dark
Actually is running at 325.00 on evga website or ebay store can't remember which almost got one myself

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i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM Plexi-Copper water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
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Titan Xp with copper Water Block
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Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
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evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
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Redragon Perdition
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They're both nice, Asrock has more bios options and configuration if you want to do more than just OC (like bifurcation which evga does not support). Biggest difference is the M.2 slots are both PCH on OCF and the Dark has 1 cpu and 1 cpu/pch which you can only use ones without heatsink in that slot. Other thing is OCF is ATX.
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CPU
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GPU
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Dark
Actually is running at 325.00 on evga website or ebay store can't remember which almost got one myself

Hi,

I saw that they reduced the price. That made me gravitate to either board as well. Literally half of the price of the Rampage Encore I had before.


Quote: Originally Posted by D-EJ915 View Post
They're both nice, Asrock has more bios options and configuration if you want to do more than just OC (like bifurcation which evga does not support). Biggest difference is the M.2 slots are both PCH on OCF and the Dark has 1 cpu and 1 cpu/pch which you can only use ones without heatsink in that slot. Other thing is OCF is ATX.

Thank you for replying, I appreciate your help. Form factor is irrelevant to me. The cases will be huge anyway due to the amount of radiators in them. I saw that you can run the PCIe slots 8x8x8x8x8 on the OCF and still use the two M.2 since they are obviously using PCH lanes, as you've mentioned.

Just to make sure, am I right that the Dark doesn't run 8x8x8x8x8 and the M.2 slots together? That would make me move towards the OCF, I am just kind of worried about the VRMs and the VRM heatsink. I do not want to run any monoblock and there might not be a separate flan blowing on the heatsinks. I assume that the temperatures could easily exceed 80° Celsius once I overclock up to 4.8GHz.
Could you help me out?
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There is a mapping guide here: https://xdevs.com/guide/e299ocg/

So can use all 5 slots with 2nd M.2 set to PCH. If you want to use 2nd U.2 port it switches PE6 to x4 from PCH (I have tested this myself and it does).

I remember Nick Shih saying that they have both M.2 on OCF set to PCH for KBL-X as it made the signal routing better or something of that nature.

I've not tested vrm temps on them in a while, last one I did was my R6E which hit 85 C before I stopped test with no fan lol. I imagine with active cooling the dark stays cooler, if you slapped a fan over the OCF I imagine it would be basically the same.

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Mitty
(11 items)
CPU
Intel i7-7820X
Motherboard
Asrock X299 OC Formula
GPU
Asus Strix 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR C14 3200MHz XMP 4x8GB
Hard Drive
Intel P3520 NVMe PCIE AIC 1.2TB
Power Supply
Seasonic X-1250 1250 Watt PSU
Cooling
NZXT Kraken 62
Case
NZXT S340
Operating System
Windows 10 x64
Monitor
Asus PA329Q 32" 4k 60Hz
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB Lux
Mouse
Logitech G600
Audio
HDMI to my Yamaha CX-A5000 preamplifier and studio monitors.
CPU
Intel i9-9900X
Motherboard
EVGA X299 Dark
GPU
EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill 4x8GB C14 3200MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung Pro 840 250 GB
Power Supply
EVGA Supernova G3 1300
Cooling
Phanteks PH-TC14PE
CPU
Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard
Asrock Fatal1ty X79 Champion
GPU
EVGA GTX 780 Ti
RAM
Mushkin Redline
Hard Drive
WD Velociraptor
Optical Drive
Asus DVD±RW
Power Supply
Seasonic X-1250
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Corsair H100i V2
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Fractal ARC MIDI
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Windows 7 Pro x64
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Thanks again for the help. I have decided to go with the EVGA Dark. The lack of bifurcation is annoying but I can use the HighPoint SSD7103 instead of an ASUS or ASRock SSD card.
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