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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-23-2020, 02:17 PM - Thread Starter
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MSI X299 Creator / Gigabyte X299X / AsRock X299 Taichi CLX - help me choose

I come to the wiser to ask again for advice so please help me choose between these boards.

I want to use it with an 10940x or a 10920x (haven't decided yet so I can take advice on this too if offered).

I plan to do some overclocking but no record breaking (looking at 4.6 / 4.7 ideally)

I really need a good performing, stable motherboard. They all basically provide all the structural needs I have at the moment, which are in the area of a minimum of 3 pcie x16 slots (at minimum x8 speeds) and at least 2 nvmes.

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Personal choice. Motherboards these days aren't like 10 years ago, they are all solid performers. Just buy whichever one you like and it's features and call it a day.

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I used my MSI Creation board for my latest build, it's a nice board so I'd imagine the newer iteration is better, I'd go with that one from that list.

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Asrock X299 OC Formula
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Asus Strix 1080 Ti
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G.Skill DDR C14 3200MHz XMP 4x8GB
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EVGA Supernova G3 1300
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Phanteks PH-TC14PE
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Intel i7-3930k
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Asrock Fatal1ty X79 Champion
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I'd go with the Giga. Giga has a history of building some of the most robust boards ever. MSI, notsomuch.

DQ6 comes to mind, one of the most solid boards ever made, period. I've had the pleasure of owning many of them.

GA-X48T-DQ6

Have seen MSI boards blow up. (more than 3x) To be fair, I did catch an EP45T-USB3p vrm on fire, maybe it's just me..

It didn't like 2.1v

vrm flared up like a match head. Yeah, this session's done.

It did take 2+v to make that happen, though.

Okay, in all objectivity: Compare the chokes on the 2 boards and see which has higher quality and quantity.

I have a feeling Giga will be better. Ofc then there's BIOS implementation..Giga is OK there.

IMO, Asus and AsRock are better BIOS-wise.

BIOS hierarchy:

Asus-AsRock-Giga-MSI-Biostar

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Look at my Sig... This is what I got like 3 months ago to install with a 10980XE. The VRM on this board is top notch as heck. The only reason other motherboards cost more is things like ton of PCI Lines and PCIe slots for pci slot SSD stuff and thunderbolt on another model but you can already get thunderbolt with a card. Also just because my board sorta says gaming on it, its far from it. 18 cores 36 threads Quad Channel Memory gonna have to push me to below 100 percent usage until 2030 then lets see what happens.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post
I'd go with the Giga. Giga has a history of building some of the most robust boards ever. MSI, notsomuch.

DQ6 comes to mind, one of the most solid boards ever made, period. I've had the pleasure of owning many of them.

GA-X48T-DQ6

Have seen MSI boards blow up. (more than 3x) To be fair, I did catch an EP45T-USB3p vrm on fire, maybe it's just me..

It didn't like 2.1v

vrm flared up like a match head. Yeah, this session's done.

It did take 2+v to make that happen, though.

Okay, in all objectivity: Compare the chokes on the 2 boards and see which has higher quality and quantity.

I have a feeling Giga will be better. Ofc then there's BIOS implementation..Giga is OK there.

IMO, Asus and AsRock are better BIOS-wise.

BIOS hierarchy:

Asus-AsRock-Giga-MSI-Biostar
For your convenience:

MSI: 12(digital) 90A +1 phases with triple 8x pin cpu connectors
Gigabyte: 12(digital) 70A phase with double 8x pin cpu connectors (with 2x copper PCB)
AsRock: 13 60A phase design with double 8x pin cpu connectors etc

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RAM
Predator 16x4GB 3000Mhz CL15
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Quote: Originally Posted by Turtle Rig View Post
Look at my Sig... This is what I got like 3 months ago to install with a 10980XE. The VRM on this board is top notch as heck. The only reason other motherboards cost more is things like ton of PCI Lines and PCIe slots for pci slot SSD stuff and thunderbolt on another model but you can already get thunderbolt with a card. Also just because my board sorta says gaming on it, its far from it. 18 cores 36 threads Quad Channel Memory gonna have to push me to below 100 percent usage until 2030 then lets see what happens.
Yes, indeed. MSI does come with a ton of... surplus. Not a bad thing in itself and definitely the price difference is not worth taking note of. But the only thing I want this board to do (apart from the minimum 3 pci slots and 2 nvmes) is to be rock solid stable and to not give me headaches. The overcloking I am aiming for is rather modest so any board should handle it, but I would like to pick the board that will give it to me with the fewest headache possible and maintain it for a long time. These are my main concerns for now, and if this is taken care of, any other perks that msi or gigabyte might offer which are not immediately obvious to me right now would be just the cherry on top.

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Should we throw X299 Taichi XE into the mix? For giggles at least... being a 2017 motherboard.

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Seriously guys. Help needed. I have the X299X Aorus Master Rev1 and I am not too thrilled about it. Any possible reason to get the X299 Creator from MSI or is it just basically more of the same?!

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What issue were you having with your current board? I don't have a creator but I imagine my creation is mostly the same at least bios wise.

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Mitty
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CPU
Intel i7-7820X
Motherboard
Asrock X299 OC Formula
GPU
Asus Strix 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR C14 3200MHz XMP 4x8GB
Hard Drive
Intel P3520 NVMe PCIE AIC 1.2TB
Power Supply
Seasonic X-1250 1250 Watt PSU
Cooling
NZXT Kraken 62
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NZXT S340
Operating System
Windows 10 x64
Monitor
Asus PA329Q 32" 4k 60Hz
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB Lux
Mouse
Logitech G600
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HDMI to my Yamaha CX-A5000 preamplifier and studio monitors.
CPU
Intel i9-9900X
Motherboard
EVGA X299 Dark
GPU
EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill 4x8GB C14 3200MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung Pro 840 250 GB
Power Supply
EVGA Supernova G3 1300
Cooling
Phanteks PH-TC14PE
CPU
Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard
Asrock Fatal1ty X79 Champion
GPU
EVGA GTX 780 Ti
RAM
Mushkin Redline
Hard Drive
WD Velociraptor
Optical Drive
Asus DVD±RW
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Seasonic X-1250
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