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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-08-2020, 03:50 PM - Thread Starter
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MSI Z87-G45 won't post?

Hi All,

Apologies in advance if I've posted this in the wrong place, but I'm suddenly having an issue with my computer which I believe to be that the motherboard bought the farm, but would like confirmation based on expert opinions before I shell out the $$ for a new mobo and find myself in the same position but a bit lighter in the wallet.

I had just loaded up a game, maybe a few seconds in, and *crash*. The PC seemed to reboot but there was no display signal. I should note that I had 2 HDMI displays connected to my GFX card (all my rig details are in my sig), and was using the secondary display at the time. So I held the power button till it shut off, unplugged the power, re-plugged and tried again. Same thing, it powers on but no "beep" from the mobo (I can't specifically remember if it used to beep or not, but I believe it did), and no signal on any display. I took it apart, removing the GFX card and plugged one display to the onboard HDMI on the mobo. I removed the hard drives, and removed 2 of the 4 RAM sticks. Same thing. I tried removing all RAM. I've tried swapping RAM sticks. One of my displays has a VGA input and I'd like to connect it to that to rule out that it's simply not outputting a signal to the particular HDMI that I've connected to, since it was configured for the GFX card before, but I don't have a VGA cable. I've tried clearing the CMOS, and still the same result. It powers, but no beep and no display signal.

Can anyone advise if
a) This mobo is supposed to beep on post?
b) After clearing CMOS, should the mobo by default output a signal to the onboard HDMI? Or would it default to VGA/DVI?
c) Does it seem like this mobo is well and truly screwed or could it possibly be anything else that I haven't properly troubleshooted yet?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-08-2020, 03:55 PM
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I had the MSI Z87-G55 and when my CMOS battery died the board starting acting a bit like this. Definitely time to replace the CR2032 battery either way at this point.

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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I had the MSI Z87-G55 and when my CMOS battery died the board starting acting a bit like this. Definitely time to replace the CR2032 battery either way at this point.
Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I happened to have a spare CR2032 and just now swapped it out but unfortunately that didn't remedy the problem.

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Do you have a spare graphics card you can test with?

With all the troubles AMD's graphics drivers have at the moment, it could be the black screen bug.

My 5700XT will do this occasionally on its own and every time I choose restart in the windows shutdown menu.


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Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post
Do you have a spare graphics card you can test with?

With all the troubles AMD's graphics drivers have at the moment, it could be the black screen bug.

My 5700XT will do this occasionally on its own and every time I choose restart in the windows shutdown menu.
Unfortunately, I don't have a spare GFX card to test with, but the mobo has a built-in display adapter with a DVI, VGA, and HDMI output. I've connected to the mobo's HDMI port, as I don't have a VGA cable or a display that supports DVI. So I'm keen to know whether the mobo will output to the on-board HDMI or not by default.

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Intel Core i5-4670k Haswell
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Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX480 8GB
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-2400 PC3-19200 4GBx2 (8GB)
RAM
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The PSU you have is terrible and might have killed your motherboard or something else
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...tream-pro.html

This is not the first time an OCZ ModXStream Pro has killed something it has happened more than a few times and its known for it

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
The PSU you have is terrible and might have killed your motherboard or something else
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...tream-pro.html

This is not the first time an OCZ ModXStream Pro has killed something it has happened more than a few times and its known for it
Hmm, unfortunate to hear but interesting nonetheless. Thanks for the heads-up and I'll definitely take it under consideration and likely replace the PSU as a precaution when replacing whatever part has failed - once I've nailed down exactly which part failed. Do you reckon it's the mobo?

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Intel Core i5-4670k Haswell
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MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
GPU
Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX480 8GB
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-2400 PC3-19200 4GBx2 (8GB)
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-2400 PC3-19200 4GBx2 (8GB)
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Kingston 240GB SSD
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Quote: Originally Posted by downer305 View Post
Unfortunately, I don't have a spare GFX card to test with, but the mobo has a built-in display adapter with a DVI, VGA, and HDMI output. I've connected to the mobo's HDMI port, as I don't have a VGA cable or a display that supports DVI. So I'm keen to know whether the mobo will output to the on-board HDMI or not by default.
It's not always easy to get it to switch onboard graphics for whatever reason.

I'm not nearly as particular about power supplies as Shilka is , but even I would say that's an awful psu.


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Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post
It's not always easy to get it to switch onboard graphics for whatever reason.

I'm not nearly as particular about power supplies as Shilka is , but even I would say that's an awful psu.
Thanks, appreciate the advice. After Shilka's post, I started researching a bit and trawling eBay. I think I've narrowed it to either a Seasonic Prime Gold 750W or a Corsair SF600 Gold which fit within what I'm willing to spend. Would you guys suggest one over the other considering my setup? Admittedly, PSUs are probably the weak point of my PC knowledge. Is 750W overkill considering I'm only using one GPU? Or is it appropriate so that the PSU doesn't have to work so hard? Are there other alternatives you'd suggest?

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750 watt is overkill for a single GPU so anything higher than 650 watt is just a waste of money
As for the replacement the Prime is a good option but its not really what i would call cheap so you also got the Seasonic Focus GX if you are looking for something good but does not cost a fortune

And dont buy a second hand PSU from ebay thats very risky you dont know who the seller is and how the PSU was treated and for all you know it could be on its last legs which is why its being sold

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Corsair Force MP510 1,92 TB
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Seagate IronWolf Pro ST14000NE0008
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf ST12000VN0007
Hard Drive
Seagate IronWolf Pro ST12000NE0007
Hard Drive
WD Ultrastar DC HC530 14 TB
Hard Drive
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Power Supply
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750 watt
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
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Asus PG279Q
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LG 55C8
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Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 with Cherry MX Silent
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