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post #21 of 101 (permalink) Old 05-03-2020, 12:32 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ViTosS View Post
Apex is usually the best mobo in the world for extreme memory OC and CPU, I think this time won't be different, right?
Not right, in this case. They downgraded the APEX gradually, over the years, and now it has only 6 PCB layers, if that makes any difference, but also lower rated power stages compared to the Extreme.
For this gen, the Extreme is exactly that, Extreme, the top board in every way.
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Quote: Originally Posted by gtrlab View Post
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If you see two phases of VCCIO - it's ready for RKL CPUs board.
Doubtful, as that is not the only requirement for RKL.
What most current Z490 boards lack to be fully complaint with RKL is the VCCGT with 55A capability. Looks like the iGPU from the RKL will be rather powerful, or at least, power hungry :-) at least in some iterations of it present on enthusiast line of CPUs.
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Not right, in this case. They downgraded the APEX gradually, over the years, and now it has only 6 PCB layers, if that makes any difference, but also lower rated power stages compared to the Extreme.
For this gen, the Extreme is exactly that, Extreme, the top board in every way.
But Extreme better even for dual channel RAM OC? I mean, Apex has only two slots that would be better for RAM overclock

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Quote: Originally Posted by Alexandrus View Post
Doubtful, as that is not the only requirement for RKL.
What most current Z490 boards lack to be fully complaint with RKL is the VCCGT with 55A capability. Looks like the iGPU from the RKL will be rather powerful, or at least, power hungry :-) at least in some iterations of it present on enthusiast line of CPUs.
that new spec of 55a vccgt wont make a difference if you wont use intel hd graphics at all.
there are z490 mobos have vccgt cut at all.

the second new vccio now disabled will be used for gen4 support when rocket lake arrives.
i would say gen4 is the key feature of rocket lake, rather hd graphics, and more and more "kf" cpu.
intel's production sucks, kf cpus will be the mainstream line for lots of countries.

ps. intel's new specs are subjected to change, even at last minute.
it is said that msi has ace and xxxxx changed from 14 phases to 16 phases for vcore in last minute simply because they suddently got the new changes of final specs from intel.
gigabyte master and asus m12h are all 14 phases.


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But Extreme better even for dual channel RAM OC? I mean, Apex has only two slots that would be better for RAM overclock
2 dimm slots for memory must be the best.

if you guys check out evga z490 dark, it has only 12*60a only. so i doubt the comet lake rearlly needs 1440a to oc even on ln2. the current intel spec of vcore for rocket lake is unchanged at 245a so z490 apex should be fine.

apex at least used to be the best in memory oc among asus mobos, i really doubt asus dares to cut any corners for cost saving on apex. maybe asus finds its own way to achieve or even improve the oc with 6 pcb layer only. msi godlike has 68 only too. evga dark has 10 in tradition.

pushing every specs to its limits on m12e is probably for business.

edit: godlike has 8 pcb layers

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VIII) Acorrding to some reliable source, some mobos have the new intel 2.5G lan 1225V2 used on pcb. while the truth is even v2 has some bugs that have to be fixed on v3(thats why intel said bugs in v1 would be fixed when rocket lake is out), thats why some mobos simply skip the intel 2.5g and put intel 1g lan or realtek new 2.5g lan (package loss on v1 should be fixed on new version).
Just curious if there anyway to identity it's I225V2 or I225V1?

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Quote: Originally Posted by mojolou View Post
Just curious if there anyway to identity it's I225V2 or I225V1?
SLN9D=B1-->gigabyte master
SLNJY-->asus strix a

without updates on intel websie, i cant confirm the SLNJY is B2.
and i heard B3 should be out in q3, so make your own guess.
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Quote: Originally Posted by asdkj1740 View Post
SLN9D=B1-->gigabyte master
SLNJY-->asus strix a

without updates on intel websie, i cant confirm the SLNJY is B2.
and i heard B3 should be out in q3, so make your own guess.
From Intel's docs (R&D)
SLN9D = B1
SLNJY = B2
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Quote: Originally Posted by gtrlab View Post
From Intel's docs (R&D)
SLN9D = B1
SLNJY = B2
may i have that intel's docs?
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may i have that intel's docs?
No. Full doc under NDA for customers.
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