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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-25-2020, 05:51 AM - Thread Starter
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mobo for 10900k

MAXIMUS XII HERO or AORUS MASTER
for 10900k with 16x2 4000Mhz memory
which one better? pricing is almost identical
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-25-2020, 06:00 AM
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MAXIMUS XII HERO or AORUS MASTER
for 10900k with 16x2 4000Mhz memory
which one better? pricing is almost identical
Asus bios shows 10 series "silicon quality"
Asus often has better bios than Gigabyte for memory overclocking.

Haven't tested Gigabyte z490, but have ordered Asus Apex and Formula is on it's way. Here in Norway it's 20% off Asus MB when buying 10 series cpu. So Asus is the best choice here.

Gigabyte z490 looks strong in many reviews, so I thing you have to look at the "features" on the board What features du you want/need.

CPU24/7) 7980xe - 7900xMOBO: ASUS Rampage Apex x299 / Asrock Taichi x299RAM: 4x 3600c15 / 4x4266c19/ 4x4000 c17 GPU: 2x MSI tri X 2080ti / 1060tiSTORAGE: Areca 1883i HDD R6 + Samsung 850PROs R0 - 3x SM961 nvme 1TB - 3x Intel Optane 900p 480GBCASE: LD cooling V8 R/B / ld cooling reverse R/BMonitor: Acer x34 /Asus 27 AQ 4k g-sync / Asrock x570 Taichi / 3900x
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Asus bios shows 10 series "silicon quality"
Asus often has better bios than Gigabyte for memory overclocking.

Haven't tested Gigabyte z490, but have ordered Asus Apex and Formula is on it's way. Here in Norway it's 20% off Asus MB when buying 10 series cpu. So Asus is the best choice here.

Gigabyte z490 looks strong in many reviews, so I thing you have to look at the "features" on the board What features du you want/need.
I've tested both Maximus 12 Extreme and Z490 Aorus Master on the exact same dimms.
2x8 4000 mhz CL19-19-39 Steel Vipers and 2x16 GB 3200 mhz CL14-14-34 Gskill. Both b-die.

The Aorus Master won't allow you to use 1T command rate at higher than 3333 mhz...just loops until failed POST and C1 code
The 12 extreme trains both dimms at 1T at 3600mhz and the single rank dimms at 4000 mhz (stock settings for those) at 1T also.

For example: Patriot steel vipers 4000 mhz CL19 b-die sticks at 15/15/15/36 1T @ 3600 mhz on the M12E: Easy
15/15/15/36 @ 1T @ 3600 on the Master--fails training then C1. 2T works fine.

I did not test the dual rank 3200 Cl14 sticks at 4000 mhz 1T since I don't even know if they will overclock that far on 2T yet.

Basically the Z490 Master has the same RAM training problems and issues as the Z390 master does. And you also can't set your RTL's and IOL's and get proper values >4000, it has to do it automatically or it fails training.

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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-25-2020, 06:46 AM
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Hi,
If the hero is in your price range it is a better choice for sure
Almost picked one up myself but went for the formula instead since the apex which is only 100.00 more than the hero was delayed until July.

CPU
i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM copper-plexi water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper-plexi Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZKK
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
Cooling
MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
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CPU
10900k batch # X016E724
Motherboard
z490 ASUS Maximus XII Apex
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
RAM
Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb kit 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZSW
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 evo 500gb
Power Supply
EVGA 1000P2
Case
Corsair 450D
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ Koolance VRM block/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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I'd probably go for Hero there or save some money and get the MSI Unify which is the Ace without the RGB bling lol.

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Hi,
I'd say look at evga offerings but they're always late to the game.

CPU
i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM copper-plexi water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper-plexi Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZKK
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
Cooling
MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
Other
5.0/https://valid.x86.fr/ez2ifr
CPU
10900k batch # X016E724
Motherboard
z490 ASUS Maximus XII Apex
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
RAM
Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb kit 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZSW
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 evo 500gb
Power Supply
EVGA 1000P2
Case
Corsair 450D
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ Koolance VRM block/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
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The MSI Z490 Unifi looks really good and if Buildzoid likes it, it should be very good. I have just picked up the Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Ultra which is actually very good indeed. 12 true phases and a really good VRM cooling setup.

Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Ultra - i7-10700K - 4x8GB TT Toughram RGB DDR4 RGB 3600 - 1 X ADATA 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD - 1 x Samsung EVO 250GB SSD - 1 x 256GB M4 Crucial SSD - 1 x 1TB Hard Drives - MSI Geforce RTX 2080 Gaming X - Antec Crystal P120 Case - Arctic Freezer II 360mm AIO.
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The MSI Z490 Unifi looks really good and if Buildzoid likes it, it should be very good. I have just picked up the Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Ultra which is actually very good indeed. 12 true phases and a really good VRM cooling setup.
He has obvious tech knowledge, but I've been finding that he tends to "prefer" the boards he is sent for free and those are always MSI and Gigabyte, especially the latter. ASUS doesn't sample him and he tends to be more negative towards them.

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He has obvious tech knowledge, but I've been finding that he tends to "prefer" the boards he is sent for free and those are always MSI and Gigabyte, especially the latter. ASUS doesn't sample him and he tends to be more negative towards them.
You are WAY off man, you need to research things before accusing someone like Builzoid like that. He has criticized all brands or models when deserved. Not cool, man.

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Motherboard
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GPU
EVGA 1080ti Hybrid
RAM
4x16GB G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series Model F4-3200C14D-32GTRS
Hard Drive
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Power Supply
EVGA Supernova 1000 G3
Cooling
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You are WAY off man, you need to research things before accusing someone like Builzoid like that. He has criticized all brands or models when deserved. Not cool, man.
I watch most of his content. Where was any video of him talking about the glaring issues of Gigabyte's Z390 boards? The BIOS still to this date has unresolved problems. Yet he constantly pushed how amazing they were. I know what I am talking about. I used them too.

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