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post #13431 of 14063 (permalink) Old 03-23-2020, 10:02 PM
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I wonder if the fine gentleman at Aquacomputer ever plan to release a new Aquaero that no longer uses the 5.25" form factor?
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I wonder if the fine gentleman at Aquacomputer ever plan to release a new Aquaero that no longer uses the 5.25" form factor?
With the release of the Quadro and Octo if you're tight on space there's little reason to get a Aquero over them.

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With the release of the Quadro and Octo if you're tight on space there's little reason to get a Aquero over them.
I used a Quadro for my wife's mITX build. My main PC has an Aquaero and a Farbwerk 360, but the case is a Thermaltake Core X5, could hide half an elephant in there.

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A couple years ago, when I was thinking about having a dual-cooling setup, I was considering using these to switch between flow circuits. My plan was to use an external (outside the house or in the attic) passive radiator during winter and an external (in the same room) active radiator during summer, but I dropped the idea because it was not feasible. Leaving the liquid idle for 6 months a year in an unused loop was not a good idea.

What do you plan to use them for?
Well, it was a quick and dirty way to exclude the heat exchanger from the loop in case of failure
But these valves are EOL and only 1 piece left...
I have to source a couple of industrial grade 3/2 dry valves but it's going to take a lot of time.
There are so many small tidbits to know that just to be sure I'm ordering the right stuff will take at least one week.

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Well, it was a quick and dirty way to exclude the heat exchanger from the loop in case of failure
Makes sense, my MoRa 420 would totally agree.
I can see stock on ModmyMods, or you could go industrial as you have said. Here you can find a variety of such valves.

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Makes sense, my MoRa 420 would totally agree.
I can see stock on ModmyMods, or you could go industrial as you have said. Here you can find a variety of such valves.
Thanks for the tips!

My problem with 2/2 valves is that to exclude a block you need both normally closed and normally open models.
The Alphacool is only available as NC, very few are available also as normally open.
All NC it's problematic; these electromagnets doesn't last long if always on.
Also they produce heat which is never welcome...
It was just a shortcut, but I'm having trouble sourcing stuff with this CV mess, thus I tried to get something to mitigate.

The 3/2 valves are more expensive but only 2 are needed, which is good considering the 2 x 12V 1A limitation.
Also I'd like to exclude anything which is not brass or copper from the loops; dry valves ensure steel or aluminium doesn't get in touch with the fluid.

I'm looking at this one:

https://www.fluidconcept24.de/magnet...i-d344d57.html

It's 12V and only 9W, -10° to +100°, EPDM seal which, as far I could understand from the chemical table, should go nice with Copper, Glycol and more or less all the chemicals eventually in the fluid.
It does need a device plug adapter; there I'm lost, I did send a few questions to this distributor yesterday.
Have no idea if I need a pressure switch setting or not, even what are exactly the differences between all those models of plugs.

Guess also needs an interference suppressor:

https://www.fluidconcept24.de/entsto...200007409.html

Also it's a G 1/4" connector but I'm not sure if it's threaded or not or same as the usual WC fittings.
I'm not very familiar with plumbing stuff outside computer WC.

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Quote: Originally Posted by sultanofswing View Post
I wonder if the fine gentleman at Aquacomputer ever plan to release a new Aquaero that no longer uses the 5.25" form factor?

Perhaps this has already happened.
Two QUADROs will run most dual loop systems as well as an aquaero, at half the cost, plus you have RGBpx.
The only things you loose are Calitemps, and the hard virtual sensors for instances where one does not want the aquacomputer service running.

An OCTO would be able to do 2 loops if the aquabus port were given the option to also take a 2nd flow sensor input.

As to the non 5.25" form factor, the 6 LT does that?
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Do you think it's possible to drive a pair of electromagnetic ball valves via the 12V PWM output on the aquaero 6?

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/fitti...tventil-12v-dc
You have to use a free-wheeling diode with such electromagnetic ball valves. Otherwise you will damage the aquaero.

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I wonder if the fine gentleman at Aquacomputer ever plan to release a new Aquaero that no longer uses the 5.25" form factor?
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You have to use a free-wheeling diode with such electromagnetic ball valves. Otherwise you will damage the aquaero.
I gave up on those valves, instead I'm planning for these:

https://www.fluidconcept24.de/magnet...i-d344d57.html

And they advice to use this interference suppressor:

https://www.fluidconcept24.de/entsto...200007409.html

I don't now exactly what it does but from the description it seems the same as what a free-wheeling diode would, protecting from spikes.
What do you think?

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I was considering using relays to open/close valves, allowing me to keep one loop open, or the other, or both, or even none.

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