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post #13471 of 13950 (permalink) Old 03-27-2020, 06:22 AM
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The Eisbaer LT is a VERY slow pump. It has a rated flow of 100L/min when running solo, without a loop. It also has a head pressure of 0.6m which is VERY low.
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Yeah I know it's very slow; it's also ultra low noise, main requirement
But I have no reference to judge if it's working as expected.
In the manual it's actually rated as 70 liter per hour.
I'd wish that someone could confirm the values are in the correct range.

BTW The DDC-1T Plus at 33% is less noisy and almost double the flow.
It's bigger yes, but not that much; wouldn't say the 2600 it's a great pump at all, thumbs down.

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i think you might also distort results due to having two different speed pumps running at the same time. are you shuttering one when testing the other?

draw a mental image of a faster pump pushing water into a slower pump, etc. i think the slower pump would just add restriction and not benefit flow much (yes, we know. redundancy!)

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Bit of a random question, but has anybody tried or known of anyone who has run their Aquaero screen via a wired extension from the main unit please? Where I am thinking of mounting the screen, it does not have the clearance for the assembled unit, and where it's a standard 24pin connector I was thinking of wiring an extension lead on my 6 XT. It does not need to very long.
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its come up a few times. people have adapted ribbon cables (not sure if Aqua makes one these days) and I believe they found the range of said cable is quite limited.

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Yeah I know it's very slow; it's also ultra low noise, main requirement
But I have no reference to judge if it's working as expected.
In the manual it's actually rated as 70 liter per hour.
I'd wish that someone could confirm the values are in the correct range.

BTW The DDC-1T Plus at 33% is less noisy and almost double the flow.
It's bigger yes, but not that much; wouldn't say the 2600 it's a great pump at all, thumbs down.
I have dual-D5 pumps in a volute and I can barely hear them. The 4x 230mm fans running at 400 RPM, those I can barely hear, but I can't hear the pumps (at 100%). BTW my flow rate is 313 L/h with the above setup.
Getting a weak pump because "others are noisy" is not backed up by actual facts, just saying.

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the only noisy pumps are DDCs on high speed. Specially if you fail to prevent your pumps from resonating your case.


CLCs don't count, almost all of them use absolute garbage bottom barrel $1 a piece in bulk pumps.

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its come up a few times. people have adapted ribbon cables (not sure if Aqua makes one these days) and I believe they found the range of said cable is quite limited.
Thank i shall give it a try It does not need to be that long maybe 15-20cm
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i think you might also distort results due to having two different speed pumps running at the same time. are you shuttering one when testing the other?

draw a mental image of a faster pump pushing water into a slower pump, etc. i think the slower pump would just add restriction and not benefit flow much (yes, we know. redundancy!)
Yep, those numbers are one pump at the time.
I did run briefly both together with the DDC at lowest speed and the 2600 adds max 10 l/h.
Indeed I guess it's not the best running 2 very different pumps at the same time.

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I have dual-D5 pumps in a volute and I can barely hear them. The 4x 230mm fans running at 400 RPM, those I can barely hear, but I can't hear the pumps (at 100%). BTW my flow rate is 313 L/h with the above setup.
Getting a weak pump because "others are noisy" is not backed up by actual facts, just saying.
It's on my list the D5, thanks for the feedback
I'm doing prototyping now and the Eisbaer LT just fits the task.
The DDC is indeed very noisy at full speed, it starts being noticeable at 2500 rpm and annoying at 3200 rpm; at full speed it's quite terrible.
And it's not even yet inside the case. The D5 seems vastly superior in every aspect.

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Running 2*Laing DDC 3.25 18W pump with Aquacomputer Dual DDC pump top and they're mounted on Aquacomputer Shoggy sandwich and no issues with noise plus running XSPC D5 Vario pump at full speed and both DDC are running at full speed and absolutely no issues with noise

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Quote: Originally Posted by ManniX-ITA View Post
The DDC is indeed very noisy at full speed, it starts being noticeable at 2500 rpm and annoying at 3200 rpm; at full speed it's quite terrible.
Not necessarily. I have a DDC 3.25 from EKWB running in my wife's mITX build and it sits on a modified Shoggy Sandwich, you can't hear it unless you are very close to the case, listen intently and manage to ignore the awful mini-fan on the X570 motherboard's chipset.
The way you install it is indeed more important than in case of a D5 pump, but as far as noise goes, it can be pretty quiet.

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