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post #1271 of 1339 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 02:52 AM
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Hi I’m using the 16mm v4 compression hardline barrow fittings in Matt black. I bought some 1m bitspower hard tube but it feels a little loose I can pull it out with a bit of pressure.
I tried some from an eBay seller mizucooling and there tube fits perfect it’s nice and snug however they only sell 500mm lengths.
I need some 1m lengths for a large desk build I’m working on.
What ones are you guys using??
I hear xspc tube is tight but I can only fine 14mm not 16mm

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I ended up going with bitspower 90 & 45 they are phenomenal very stiff & solid I love the feeling of them. I might one day try barrow but for now bitspower is champ.
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If some one wants to pay 11 dollars each for a fitting and 15 dollars for an adapter be my guest, I will never pay premium for compression fittings or adapters because it makes little sense these days. Barrow is good quality, among the best on the market and they charge a fair price what is these not to like? Back in the days compression fittings were like 3 dollars each and they were pretty simple and worked great, people didn't feel the need to spend top dollar on all these items. Keep in mind, barrow fittings are not cheap, here in EU they are almost 5 euros each which is 1 euro below EK for example.

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If some one wants to pay 11 dollars each for a fitting and 15 dollars for an adapter be my guest, I will never pay premium for compression fittings or adapters because it makes little sense these days. Barrow is good quality, among the best on the market and they charge a fair price what is these not to like? Back in the days compression fittings were like 3 dollars each and they were pretty simple and worked great, people didn't feel the need to spend top dollar on all these items. Keep in mind, barrow fittings are not cheap, here in EU they are almost 5 euros each which is 1 euro below EK for example.

Hi there

I have used like EK or Bitspower fittings and now I use solely or only Barrow fittings, on few friend builds I have used like Barrow and Bykski fittings with Bykski CPU and GPU waterblocks and pump as well and no issues

Sadly that's true, in UK price is very similar to EK or XSPC which in many cases is slightly lower priced,I can only guess its down to dollar/£ rate as few years back Barrow prices have been lot better or lower

My brother flying to China sometimes twice per months and he usually buys stuff from Taobao where fittings or chrome plated copper tubing is cheaper than on Aliexpress

Hope this helps

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The latest gears from EK is just a sad joke to be honest. They have cut cost on all items such as pump tops/res, blocks and radiators. Good bye all "EU" brands, you have milked the market enough for 10 years, time to change. Now you can invest all that money into useless RGB styling and aluminium rads and other AIO nonsense for "Steve the youtuber" and similar customers. EK only have one color on their new plasticizer free tubing, that is clear, how lazy isn't that to offer only one color, and they want 15 euros for 3m HAHA. EK fittings are also funny, you can't tightem them without a allen key and their hose barely fits on the fittings. The EK tubings fitts better on the alphacool fittings than on their own fittings haha. I don't know what to say, I just keep on getting more and more dissapointed.

What else the EK velocity block is a sad joke, I thought the chrome details was metall but it is plastic and the mounting mechanism is a pain, the thumb screws are so short so you can barely screw them in, in the pooly threaded backplate. Spent 30 minutes trying to prevent cross threading the thumb screws that barely reached the back plate. The mounting mechanism is far superior on the alphacool eisblock and xspc raystorm, I don't know what EK was thinking. Good thing I mounted the block with the motherboards alreaddy in the chassis, good luck otherwise trying to push down the thumb screws in the back plate. Worst experiance ever with an 80 dollar block. What else, well it only has one o-ring, no o-ring between the jet plate and the top. Don't buy EK products anymore is my suggestion.

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I have the EK Supremacy RGB and it is awesome. The temperatures are wonderful. Although I do agree, mounting it was rather difficult. I literally tore the skin off my fingers trying to tighten the thumb screws. But once that sucker is on it is on SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TIGHT that you know the seal is VERY solid. Along with Thermal Grizzly the temps are wonderful I am more than satisfied to be honest.

Quote: Originally Posted by PachAz View Post
If some one wants to pay 11 dollars each for a fitting and 15 dollars for an adapter be my guest, I will never pay premium for compression fittings or adapters because it makes little sense these days. Barrow is good quality, among the best on the market and they charge a fair price what is these not to like? Back in the days compression fittings were like 3 dollars each and they were pretty simple and worked great, people didn't feel the need to spend top dollar on all these items. Keep in mind, barrow fittings are not cheap, here in EU they are almost 5 euros each which is 1 euro below EK for example.



Alright cool, next time I am going to try Barrow fittings. I like their products and wouldn't mind trying their compression 45 or 90 degree fittings.


Although I will have to say that I absolutely LOVE my Bitspower fittings because there is no leaks and the rings are all very tight. I hope the washers last a long time cause they look and work fantastically.

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The latest gears from EK is just a sad joke to be honest. They have cut cost on all items such as pump tops/res, blocks and radiators. Good bye all "EU" brands, you have milked the market enough for 10 years, time to change. Now you can invest all that money into useless RGB styling and aluminium rads and other AIO nonsense for "Steve the youtuber" and similar customers. EK only have one color on their new plasticizer free tubing, that is clear, how lazy isn't that to offer only one color, and they want 15 euros for 3m HAHA. EK fittings are also funny, you can't tightem them without a allen key and their hose barely fits on the fittings. The EK tubings fitts better on the alphacool fittings than on their own fittings haha. I don't know what to say, I just keep on getting more and more dissapointed.

What else the EK velocity block is a sad joke, I thought the chrome details was metall but it is plastic and the mounting mechanism is a pain, the thumb screws are so short so you can barely screw them in, in the pooly threaded backplate. Spent 30 minutes trying to prevent cross threading the thumb screws that barely reached the back plate. The mounting mechanism is far superior on the alphacool eisblock and xspc raystorm, I don't know what EK was thinking. Good thing I mounted the block with the motherboards alreaddy in the chassis, good luck otherwise trying to push down the thumb screws in the back plate. Worst experiance ever with an 80 dollar block. What else, well it only has one o-ring, no o-ring between the jet plate and the top. Don't buy EK products anymore is my suggestion.

You are right 100%.

But among enthusiasts who build watercooling at least 2/3 people don't know to give you usefull advice.
They build show rooms colorfull RGB RIGs where expensive hardware look like from Chinese marketplace.
Before I could recognize every ASUS ROG motherboard inside PC case, not I don't know is it 200$ or 600$ worth motherboard from RGBs.

And after I made some mistakes building watercooling and met with politic without intention to build quality parts I only could say this.
Radiators- HW Labs Black Ice
Reservoir-Combos-CPU-GPU-VRM blocks - Watercool Heatkiller
Fittings - Bitspower - Koolance and few others
D5 Pump wSpeed Controller search for old Laing D5 38/810N not EK, not Alphacool, not PWM, not XSPC.

If you don't want to buy this you gave up from German quality and only company who still nice present German quality and performance and give priority to other things. Now is only hope that Watercool will continue to sell quality parts.

Are you aware that some people who have material and machines for building waterblocks produce few peaces more quality than some companies who do that years. We talk about corrossion in normal water-coolant... That's not acceptable with quality parts if they match. Brands are so lazy that they don't polish block for hardware from inside because it's not visible and not touch hardware and then deserve to stay with traces from production, can you imagine... I notice that 100 times on different brands. They not polish completely inside because it's water channels or not seen.
You see that on copper, POM, Acetal...traces from drilling because polish more will need 1 hours more of working.

Sometimes people need to gave up little from personal taste if they don't want to sacrifice quality.
I would bought Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro fans looking only personal taste because they are full black and nice.
After 2 months they would be dirty and performance on beginning will not be even close to better fans, but Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM start to like me because her performance and become nice because they are good and now I love them more then any other fans. But taste push me in direction of BlackSilentPro. I could imagine their look after become dirty and old 6 months.

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Barrow Black Fittings are resistant to scratch as Bitspower?
Color fittings always looked me more sensitive to scratch then Nickel-Shiny Silver, I don't know why?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vlada011 View Post
Barrow Black Fittings are resistant to scratch as Bitspower?
Color fittings always looked me more sensitive to scratch then Nickel-Shiny Silver, I don't know why?
I recently did a full dual radiator build in my Define S2 (secondary PC) using Barrow fittings in black and didn't have any issues with the coating or scratching. The coating actually strikes me as being very good. Miles better than EK. I've never had Bitspower because they're far too expensive to get where I live so I can't comment on how they compare, but I would certainly use Barrow fittings again for my next build without question.

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Yea, Koolance fittings or EKWB or XSPC could cost me arround 90 euro, Bitspower 260 euro for same things.
That's insanity.
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