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post #891 of 1989 (permalink) Old 05-03-2017, 02:58 AM
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When did you buy your case? I've heard that Phanteks upgraded the fans on the Evolv ATX from the SP to the MP but their website still doesn't reflect the change.
The replacement fan for PH-F140SP is not a PH-F140MP fan.

While they look like PH-F140MP they are not the same .. nor do they have same specifications. Best I can tell they are no-name / no-model number fans that have PH-F140SP outer housing and motor with a PH-F140MP impeller.

I have not been able to get any of these MP impeller case fans, but Phanteks told me
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F140MP_BK (3Pin for case installation)1200RPM +/- 250 rpm.
1.31 mmH2O
24.2 dBA.
Which is rpm specificaton of PH-F140HP_ii and PH-F140MP at 1200rpm
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CFM will be the same as MP
I think that means at PH-F140MP at 1200rpm performs the same as these new case fans .. which is about 66cfm
PH-F140MP are PWM controlled 500-1600rpm; 68.1cfm; 17-25.3dB(A); 1.62mm H2O
"No Name/No Model #" are variable voltage 1200rpm; xx.xcfm; 24.2dB(A); 1.31mm H2O

CoolingTechnique tested the PH-F140HP_II .. the same fan in round housing versus square housing on PH-F140MP
CoolingTechnique testing data is at 1222rpm there is 68.1cfm, and 1.71mm H2O
CoolingTechnique testing data is at 1416rpm there is 79.9cfm and 2.286mm H2O (1416rpm is below 1600rpm spec because load resistance lowers fan speed and all specs are +/-250rpm)
PH-F140MP specification data is at 1600rpm there is 68.1cfm and 1.61mmH2O .
Phanteks shows PH-F140MP and PH-F140HP_II having same performance, but CT test data is radically different from Phanteks data.

I tried PH-F140MP on CLC radiator and the worked quite well. I have not compared them on my Siltent Loop 280mm cooler but suspect they would work well.

I'm trying to get a couple of these newer 'no-name/no-model #' fans to test.

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The replacement fan for PH-F140SP is not a PH-F140MP fan.

While they look like PH-F140MP they are not the same .. nor do they have same specifications. Best I can tell they are no-name / no-model number fans that have PH-F140SP outer housing and motor with a PH-F140MP impeller.

I have not been able to get any of these MP impeller case fans, but Phanteks told me
Which is rpm specificaton of PH-F140HP_ii and PH-F140MP at 1200rpm
and
I think that means at PH-F140MP at 1200rpm performs the same as these new case fans .. which is about 66cfm
PH-F140MP are PWM controlled 500-1600rpm; 68.1cfm; 17-25.3dB(A); 1.62mm H2O
"No Name/No Model #" are variable voltage 1200rpm; xx.xcfm; 24.2dB(A); 1.31mm H2O

CoolingTechnique tested the PH-F140HP_II .. the same fan in round housing versus square housing on PH-F140MP
CoolingTechnique testing data is at 1222rpm there is 68.1cfm, and 1.71mm H2O
CoolingTechnique testing data is at 1416rpm there is 79.9cfm and 2.286mm H2O (1416rpm is below 1600rpm spec because load resistance lowers fan speed and all specs are +/-250rpm)
PH-F140MP specification data is at 1600rpm there is 68.1cfm and 1.61mmH2O .
Phanteks shows PH-F140MP and PH-F140HP_II having same performance, but CT test data is radically different from Phanteks data.

I tried PH-F140MP on CLC radiator and the worked quite well. I have not compared them on my Siltent Loop 280mm cooler but suspect they would work well.

I'm trying to get a couple of these newer 'no-name/no-model #' fans to test.

 

Ok, I see. Thanks.

 

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As Ciarlatano mentioned, top 360 with front 280 sounds like a good idea. I don't have any water cooling experience, but just calculating based on radiator area leads me to believe the difference between a 360 & a 280 should only be about 10% or so.
360*120=43,200mm^2
280*140=39,200mm^2

i got an xe360 in front and an alphacool 280 on top.
i would recommend placing the 360 in front, get fresh air for your largest rad and the 280/240 on top.
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i got an xe360 in front and an alphacool 280 on top.
i would recommend placing the 360 in front, get fresh air for your largest rad and the 280/240 on top.

 

But then the 360 top/280 front is better looking.


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Just collected my newly powder coated and cut ventilation holes of my evolv atx front panel. Had sent the whole case's alu panel to be powder coated

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Took the panel outs and inspect. Very good powder coats done by the powder coating company. Block off the screw holes to prevent the coats go into the thread holes.

Will head home to fix it back to the frame.

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Took the panel outs and inspect. Very good powder coats done by the powder coating company. Block off the screw holes to prevent the coats go into the thread holes.

Will head home to fix it back to the frame.

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THAT looks AWESOME... This design suit nearly perfectly that case ! Really good job.

White is not my favourite color for a case (because of my dirty gardener hands biggrin.gif) , but I can't wait to see it mounted.

Well done, sir !

PS : I hope it will help for temps and airflow, I think that was the basic purpose rolleyes.gif
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THAT looks AWESOME... This design suit nearly perfectly that case ! Really good job.

White is not my favourite color for a case (because of my dirty gardener hands biggrin.gif) , but I can't wait to see it mounted.

Well done, sir !

PS : I hope it will help for temps and airflow, I think that was the basic purpose rolleyes.gif

Thanks for the compliments. Was actually gonna wait for the Mass Order for the modded panels. But i don't wish to have the same panel as other so had to think of other designs myself. Saw the angled tempered glass and edges of the panels gave me the idea that hex is the way to go.

For my past few builds, white has always been my case Color. When I was choosing Color for the powder coating, I had a urge to go deep red haha. But chose white as the base Color. So right now I will decide what Color should I paint for the Fan grilles.

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Thanks for the compliments. Was actually gonna wait for the Mass Order for the modded panels. But i don't wish to have the same panel as other so had to think of other designs myself. Saw the angled tempered glass and edges of the panels gave me the idea that hex is the way to go.

For my past few builds, white has always been my case Color. When I was choosing Color for the powder coating, I had a urge to go deep red haha. But chose white as the base Color. So right now I will decide what Color should I paint for the Fan grilles.

Are you painting the rest of the case as well?

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nope. dont really like full white rigs. I love the contrast of black and whites. Thats what i did with my previous build.


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