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Does anyone know if I can fit 2 EK XE 360mm in this case? I've searched online everywhere and I can't seem to find the answer. The closest picture I can find that MIGHT answer my question is posted below.

I want to go with the same setup as pictured, EK XE 360mm up top with AP60s in push and an EK XE 360mm up front with AP60s in push behind the front cover. As far as I can see from the pics the front radiator does go down into the basement of the case. Maybe I have to go with EK's slimmer 360mm radiator up top to be able to fit the 360mm XE in the front?

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I don't have that case, but just running the numbers, I don't see how it could fit. The EK XE 360 is 399mm long x 60mm deep. Fans are 25mm deep. 399+60+25=484mm. The Evolv ATX is 495mm tall x 510mm long. Either direction will have at least 1" (25mm) of unusable space just because of the shape. 510-25=485mm. It's likely worse than that, but I don't see detailed enough pictures to say for certain. The pictures on the Phanteks website make it look like the mounting location for the front fans is set back more than the thickness of the actual fans. I would guarantee that even with the top radiator pushed to the back, you can't fit another XE 360 in the front. If you look at using a slim radiator, it could change things, but you'll need someone who can take some good measurements to answer that one for you.

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I did a rough sketch in AutoCAD scaling from the website picture. I know it's not perfect, but it should give you a better idea of what the case gives you to work with.

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I don't have that case, but just running the numbers, I don't see how it could fit. The EK XE 360 is 399mm long x 60mm deep. Fans are 25mm deep. 399+60+25=484mm. The Evolv ATX is 495mm tall x 510mm long. Either direction will have at least 1" (25mm) of unusable space just because of the shape. 510-25=485mm. It's likely worse than that, but I don't see detailed enough pictures to say for certain. The pictures on the Phanteks website make it look like the mounting location for the front fans is set back more than the thickness of the actual fans. I would guarantee that even with the top radiator pushed to the back, you can't fit another XE 360 in the front. If you look at using a slim radiator, it could change things, but you'll need someone who can take some good measurements to answer that one for you.

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I did a rough sketch in AutoCAD scaling from the website picture. I know it's not perfect, but it should give you a better idea of what the case gives you to work with.

Thanks for the response and the quick CAD scale. I'm going to microcenter later today, I'll pick up a 360mm EK radiator cause I need one regardless of position it will be in the case and I'll do some measurements before I purchase the second radiator.
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The answer is no. You can put one on the front and only lose some of the rad mount space. Not the worst thing in the world, and you can do a 240mm in the top.

Putting it on top will have the rad blocking half of the CPU block - not the most attractive look, and making it very difficult to work with.

You will notice that the build you pictured has slim rads, which tends to be the go-to for good looking Evolv ATX builds. I know that you are doing thick rads for looks, but in the Evolv ATX it is couterproductive and tends to just look crowded.

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The answer is no. You can put one on the front and only lose some of the rad mount space. Not the worst thing in the world, and you can do a 240mm in the top.

Putting it on top will have the rad blocking half of the CPU block - not the most attractive look, and making it very difficult to work with.

You will notice that the build you pictured has slim rads, which tends to be the go-to for good looking Evolv ATX builds. I know that you are doing thick rads for looks, but in the Evolv ATX it is couterproductive and tends to just look crowded.

So I would be able to fit two 360 slim rads? Or a 240/360 is my only option?
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So I would be able to fit two 360 slim rads? Or a 240/360 is my only option?

Most of the attempts I have seen required removing the front fan on the top 360 to make it fit. I just popped my case open and looked, and eyeballing it says that would be the only way it would fit (I have a 30mm thick 360 up top).

The best combo with the need to go as large as possible s a 360 on top and 280 or 240mm in the front. This gives you the completely lined with rads look you are going for - remember that the bottom of the front rad is not visible behind the midplate, so a 240 "fills" the space to the eye. Using a 280mm in the front actually looks better, it will line up the two rads front edges. Using a 240 or 360 in the front has the front rad mounted further back than the top rad, not as clean looking - plus the 280mm will outperform a 240, and you have excellent 140mm fans for the application already included with the case.

And if you are set on EK rads, make sure you get the PE 360 even though it is 38mm thick, not the awful SE (which is literally the worst performing rad line out there) - http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/ .

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As Ciarlatano mentioned, top 360 with front 280 sounds like a good idea. I don't have any water cooling experience, but just calculating based on radiator area leads me to believe the difference between a 360 & a 280 should only be about 10% or so.
360*120=43,200mm^2
280*140=39,200mm^2

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As Ciarlatano mentioned, top 360 with front 280 sounds like a good idea. I don't have any water cooling experience, but just calculating based on radiator area leads me to believe the difference between a 360 & a 280 should only be about 10% or so.
360*120=43,200mm^2
280*140=39,200mm^2

That is correct. Performance difference is very, very little to none. In this build, where it is obviously going to be way over radded (lol...is that a word?), there would be no performance difference at all. The aesthetics will be far more important, and the ability to utilize the excellent quality F140SP fans included makes it a no brainer.

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Ok thanks for the quick replies. Just got back from microcenter and I picked up a EK PE 360. I'm going to have to order the 280 online.
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