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post #11 of 232 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 07:49 AM
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From what I see, you have not owned premium cases before. I'd put cases made from aluminium in the premium class, most of them anyways.

Having myself own a few cases, I'd like to get my hands on this case for review, but my bridges with Phanteks are all burnt unfortunately.

I'd consider any case above 300$ (with a few exceptions over and under that) premium too.

Well, I coould snap pics or answer any questions you may have to better ascertain the case quality.

From a manufacturing quality perspective, this is a fantastic case.

From a build stand point, I'm not finished with my build so I can't fully comment on it yet. I started using glass but I don't want to spend 6 months perfecting my bends. (i was blowing my own glass bends in the tubes)
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Take a magnet and check which panels are steel, are which ones are aluminum (don't go near your hard drives (ssd is fine) and use a weak magnet). To me it looks like steel structure inside with only an aluminium panel on the outside. Anything over 400$ should be absolutely aluminium without ANY steel.

What features does it have at that price that other cases do not have?

How much plastic does it have? Which parts?

What kind of mechanism to remove the tempered glass?

Is the back panel glass too?

What kind of modulatiry does it have?

What's the width behind the motherboard?


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Take a magnet and check which panels are steel, are which ones are aluminum (don't go near your hard drives (ssd is fine) and use a weak magnet). To me it looks like steel structure inside with only an aluminium panel on the outside. Anything over 400$ should be absolutely aluminium without ANY steel.

The chassis is powder coated steel. Rest of the panels are aluminum, door is tempered glass.
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What features does it have at that price that other cases do not have?

Don't think I could answer this one well enough. The places the rad's go (except the front) are trays that are removable so you can mount the fans and rad and slide the whole assembly in. The knock out panels on the side and top can be metal covers or a filter for more air flow. the case is designed to hold two computers. An EATX on top, mini-ITX on the bottom (i stuck a 480mm rad here). This would of been nice because I have a gigabyte brix mounted to my wall for dedicated servers, could of stuck it in this case and monitored it easier.
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How much plastic does it have? Which parts?

None. Well, maybe the air filters and the fan splitters. No parts of the actual case are plastic.
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What kind of mechanism to remove the tempered glass?

Its on pins. You can open it ( opens and closes with magnets) and kinda work it back and forth while lifting to remove it. It is setup so that the door will open fully out of your way (270 degree rotation) so that you don't really need to remove it.
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Is the back panel glass too?

back of the case you mean? Not glass, its an open honeycomb design ( my one gripe so far, feels like it doesn't quite fit in with the case design)
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What kind of modulatiry does it have?

modular? You mean how many cards etc you can fit in? 10 PCI slot, room for 13 3.5in (6 brackets included) drives and 6 2.5in drives (4 brackets included). I have 1 2TB NVMe drive so I wont need any of those. Not sure I will even have an internal optical drive since I rarely use one. The graphics card has a bracket so that you can mount it vertical instead of horizontal on the motherboard. You can mount 2 cards on the bracket but would need to order the 2nd ribbon cable.
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What's the width behind the motherboard?

Not sure, didn't measure. Inch or two behind motherboard for cables, there are pre-installed fabric tie wraps as well.
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Take a magnet and check which panels are steel, are which ones are aluminum (don't go near your hard drives (ssd is fine) and use a weak magnet). To me it looks like steel structure inside with only an aluminium panel on the outside. Anything over 400$ should be absolutely aluminium without ANY steel.

What features does it have at that price that other cases do not have?

How much plastic does it have? Which parts?

What kind of mechanism to remove the tempered glass?

Is the back panel glass too?

What kind of modulatiry does it have?

What's the width behind the motherboard?

I think the steal construction is important here. I have bought many Higher end cases ( many from inwin and lian li ) and you NEVER see steal in those cases.

It makes the case look like a regular case masked to look like a premium case.

But there is still something i like about it. The honeycomb back has got to go.... It's just cheap looking

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Well, I coould snap pics or answer any questions you may have to better ascertain the case quality.

From a manufacturing quality perspective, this is a fantastic case.

From a build stand point, I'm not finished with my build so I can't fully comment on it yet. I started using glass but I don't want to spend 6 months perfecting my bends. (i was blowing my own glass bends in the tubes)


Thanks for chipping in on the discussion good sir ! We needed someone hands on with this case. It's a mystery

how do you feel about all the extra panels it comes with? Like the removable stuff. Is it overkill or necessary ?

And how about the big Case it comes in? that thing adds about 200 to the price. Was it worth it ?

How are the leds around the case?

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I think the steal construction is important here. I have bought many Higher end cases ( many from inwin and lian li ) and you NEVER see steal in those cases.

It makes the case look like a regular case masked to look like a premium case.

But there is still something i like about it. The honeycomb back has got to go.... It's just cheap looking

Not having a steel frame makes no sense to me. Unless the chassis is a piece of billet aluminum I would prefer the rigidity of the steel to aluminum. Or perhaps I just don't have the experience with all aluminum cases
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Thanks for chipping in on the discussion good sir ! We needed someone hands on with this case. It's a mystery

how do you feel about all the extra panels it comes with? Like the removable stuff. Is it overkill or necessary ?

Dunno, I haven't used many of the ones that come with it. I don't have any optical drives or mechanical hard drives. I do like the panels you can remove for more air flow or leave them in for silent running.
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And how about the big Case it comes in? that thing adds about 200 to the price. Was it worth it ?

ummm, it was really cool but i would say it didn't add 200 to the cost...... probably.

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dunno, I haven't powered it on yet. The motherboard I have has a RGB lighting control plug so it may be easier to control. I'll be able to tell when I get the build complete.
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Dunno, I haven't used many of the ones that come with it. I don't have any optical drives or mechanical hard drives. I do like the panels you can remove for more air flow or leave them in for silent running.


ummm, it was really cool but i would say it didn't add 200 to the cost...... probably.
dunno, I haven't powered it on yet. The motherboard I have has a RGB lighting control plug so it may be easier to control. I'll be able to tell when I get the build complete.

Unfortuantly it did add 200 :/ Dimitri from hardwarecanuks verified it. I think he said it adds just under 200 to the price. Those things are expensive.

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I really like this case but it's $1300 Canadian...before taxes! That's just way too much especially for a case with some niggling shortcomings. Please post some more pics of your build when complete. Thanks.
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