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First reviews are up with a teardown:


https://vonguru.fr/2019/01/28/test-e...black-edition/


Only performs on par with a Be Quiet Silent Loop 280...

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
First reviews are up with a teardown:


https://vonguru.fr/2019/01/28/test-e...black-edition/


Only performs on par with a Be Quiet Silent Loop 280...
Is that bad?

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Translation: It's using the $70 VPP755 "D5" (aka >15W) pump but only performs on par with a slim 30mm radiator with a $20 DC-LT pump.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
Translation: It's using the $70 VPP755 "D5" (aka >15W) pump but only performs on par with a slim 30mm radiator with a $20 DC-LT pump.
If I get you, it's a shame. I'll delete Eisbaer Extreme from my short list.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
Translation: It's using the $70 VPP755 "D5" (aka >15W) pump but only performs on par with a slim 30mm radiator with a $20 DC-LT pump.
It's the same rad core, isn't it?

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Alpha, the pump's there for you to have the flow and head.. headroom to add more blocks/rads, not as an indication of cooling potential..

As to the actual performance, what ciarla said (how often do i say that, lol).. a typical AIO rad's a rad is a rad.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
First reviews are up with a teardown:
https://vonguru.fr/2019/01/28/test-e...black-edition/
Only performs on par with a Be Quiet Silent Loop 280...
Are we looking at the same review? To me it looks like it has similar temperatures at lower noise. Which isn't "on par".

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Translation: It's using the $70 VPP755 "D5" (aka >15W) pump but only performs on par with a slim 30mm radiator with a $20 DC-LT pump.
And the Eisbaer Extreme also uses said slim 30mm radiator, not sure why you felt the need to make it seem like the EE has a thicker radiator. (Internet went down while writing and got ninja'd)

I also have my doubts about this AIO, but at least try to get your facts straight and be objective about it.
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This chart doesn't make any sense.

How EK fans are so quieter at 1209 rpm than SW3 at 778 rpm?

https://vonguru.fr/wp-content/upload...-vonguru-3.jpg

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The Eisbaer extreme uses a different CPU block , the Eisblock XPX which should be better by 1-2°C.

The performance of the kit with PWM control is on par with Be Quiet Silent Loop, maxed out fans it does a bit better but that is probably due to better fans (Silent Wings 3 vs Pure Wings 2). The pump on Silent loop also maxes out at 2200RPM.

Maybe the real reason is the CPU isn't high enough TDP even under that load to show differences , as there's less than 2°C difference to the Silent Loop which can be accounted for from CPU block and the fans.

People buying Eisbaer or Silent Loop units are likely going to get the eiswolf unit for GPU expansion which has another pump: the cost difference is minimal between a GPX and a Eiswolf block. The eiswolf blocks naturally have less VRM cooling due to the lack of direct cooling.

Eisbaer 280 is ~ $160
Eiswolf block is ~ $160

Total is less than this kit with a GPU block so it better be a really large improvement as it takes much more space in terms of thickness

I'll keep an eye out for more reviews but this first one seems rather underwhelming since it also performs worse than MLC Phoenix with the 6W SPC-60MX pump and we know that EK's slim radiators aren't as good.

Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
It's the same rad core, isn't it?
I think the hexagon grille thing is making it perform worse than it should. The xtremerigs site reviewed a radiator from Alphacool that had a similar drawback.

https://www.xtremerigs.net/2016/12/0...-pro-review/5/


Quote: Originally Posted by lb_felipe View Post
This chart doesn't make any sense.

How EK fans are so quieter at 1209 rpm than SW3 at 778 rpm?

https://vonguru.fr/wp-content/upload...-vonguru-3.jpg
Includes the grille + pump

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
The Eisbaer extreme uses a different CPU block , the Eisblock XPX which should be better by 1-2°C.

The performance of the kit with PWM control is on par with Be Quiet Silent Loop, maxed out fans it does a bit better but that is probably due to better fans (Silent Wings 3 vs Pure Wings 2). The pump on Silent loop also maxes out at 2200RPM.

Maybe the real reason is the CPU isn't high enough TDP even under that load to show differences , as there's less than 2°C difference to the Silent Loop which can be accounted for from CPU block and the fans.

People buying Eisbaer or Silent Loop units are likely going to get the eiswolf unit for GPU expansion which has another pump: the cost difference is minimal between a GPX and a Eiswolf block. The eiswolf blocks naturally have less VRM cooling due to the lack of direct cooling.

Eisbaer 280 is ~ $160
Eiswolf block is ~ $160

Total is less than this kit with a GPU block so it better be a really large improvement as it takes much more space in terms of thickness

I'll keep an eye out for more reviews but this first one seems rather underwhelming since it also performs worse than MLC Phoenix with the 6W SPC-60MX pump and we know that EK's slim radiators aren't as good.

Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
It's the same rad core, isn't it?
I think the hexagon grille thing is making it perform worse than it should. The xtremerigs site reviewed a radiator from Alphacool that had a similar drawback.

https://www.xtremerigs.net/2016/12/0...-pro-review/5/


Quote: Originally Posted by lb_felipe View Post
This chart doesn't make any sense.

How EK fans are so quieter at 1209 rpm than SW3 at 778 rpm?

https://vonguru.fr/wp-content/upload...-vonguru-3.jpg
Includes the grille + pump
Even so... EK also has a pump obviously and I think does a grille.

I was thinking... Would it be fans in pull killing the cooling performance?

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