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post #11 of 68 (permalink) Old 12-12-2018, 03:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
PTNuke I've read is not compatible with EK nickle plated water blocks
All copper or other nickle manufactures might be okay.
Huh, didn't know about that

I've used EK blocks, distilled water, PTNuke, and a silver coil for years and never had a real problem.

The nickel blocks I've noticed just became a little stained/copper colored but you can get that off. Not that big a deal imo

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post #12 of 68 (permalink) Old 12-12-2018, 06:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
PTNuke I've read is not compatible with EK nickle plated water blocks
All copper or other nickle manufactures might be okay.
Its not recommended for any Nickel blocks. EK blocks are no different to any others. Watercool and Aquacomputer have now said exactly what EK has been saying for years.

Quote: Originally Posted by Watercool-Jakob View Post
As already pointed out, the reason for this kind of corrosion is simply the PT Nuke. It basically is a copper salt, turning the whole fluid into a mild acid, which attacks nickel plating. Please drain and flush the loop. The block itself is safe to use, the discolorization will not effect it's cooling performance. But for future usage, we STRONGLY advise against ANY biocide additives - they all come with a lot of risks, and aren't that necessary, in our experience. We DO, however, recommend using a corrosion inhibitor. All major brands (EK Cryofuel, Innovatek protect and rebrands, Aquacomputer double protect, all major ready-to-use colored or opaque fluids) have biocidal abbilities integrated, rendering the risky biocide-only additives completey unneccessary.




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Distilled water and Redline Waterwetter added at the ratio they say on the bottle has kept me solid for years. Unless you put contaminated water in, i've never seen it grow anything. Keeps corrosion from occurring while reducing the surface tension of the water and making it slippery... it actually makes the water flow quieter though the blocks. I rarely change coolant or drain the loops, maybe once every 5 years once they're together. Last rig i built in 08 has had it's water changed twice in it's life.

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I just clean all my equipment with distilled water and assemble it. For coolant I use Mayhems X1 clear. Been running the same cooling equipment for around 4 years without issues.


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I think I'm going to go with dexcool next because I want orange coolant. Mayhems orange dye clogged my system up. All the orange particles stuck together and I've flakes of it all through my system. I used their dark blue dye for years and never had this problem.

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Check out Mayhems Biocide+ (not extreme) and Inhibitor+. Can treat a LOT of fluid, and doesn't cost too much. Safe for all metals and compatible with dyes. Hope it helps.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ashcroft View Post
Its not recommended for any Nickel blocks. EK blocks are no different to any others. Watercool and Aquacomputer have now said exactly what EK has been saying for years.







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Hi,
Thanks for confirming
So what is the answer/ recommended mixture in your opinion to people that just want to use distilled water and something else to not get algae/....?

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Just go get some Glychol/glycerol...and well some of the seals don't like some of that stuff. More like o-rings that the glychol doesn't dissolve and stuff and caught in the block.
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Hi,
Like to here what
@CptSpig and @Jpmboy use seeing they use soft tubing

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Hi,
Like to here what
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I use Koolance 702 Liquid Coolant, High-Performance, UV Blue for my chiller warranty. I believe JP uses distilled water and Red Line WaterWetter. I use that stuff in my car and it's great!

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