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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 03-12-2019, 07:56 AM
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Charlie,

Thanks so much for taking the time to post some updates. I've now ordered my Omega, along with a 4.6GHz-rated 7980XE.

I purchased this from a UK retail outlet, Overclockers, who recommended that I partner the CPU with the EKWB EK-Velocity water block, which is apparently the latest incarnation and is made to work with socket 2066 CPUs, so I've ordered a Nickel+Plexi version to go with the CPU.

I added 64Gb of "Team Group Xtreem "8Pack Edition" 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C17 3600MHz Quad Channel" RAM, which is a bit of a mouthfull, but is, so I'm told, a good match for the CPU. [I had been considering the G.Skill 4266MHz RAM in the same configuration, which would have been another £60 or so, but was told that this option will be more than sufficient.

I was also recommended to use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste, so got some of that too.

In my case, this order includes a pair of water-cooled 2080Ti's - which start out air-cooled and are being converted with EK water blocks (again, Plexi+Nickel).

(I'm hoping that combining Nickel on the water blocks and copper in the radiators won't prove to be a problem...). Now I just have to be patient and wait for the gear to turn up...
No issues with copper and nickel. Brass is also compatible with those two. Just make sure you use a proper coolant with corrosion inhibitors and you're good to go! If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer

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Well, time for a brief update...

I placed an order for the balance of parts (reservoirs, pumps, etc from Aqua Computer in Germany; balance of PC parts from OverClockers (ESNet) on February 27th. The single most expensive item on the order was also the rarest - a Core i9 7980XE tested and warrantied (by OcUK) to run at 4.6GHz.

I spoke with their Team yesterday. They had recently taken a bulk delivery from Intel, had tested all the i9s and not one of them had been up to scratch to work at 4.6GHz, so my order went back in the queue... However, the person I spoke with [super helpful] expressed the note of caution that, of course, Intel move their production between different production lines to balance demand with capacity. He pointed out that we could never know, but if the ramp up of sales of 9980s started to out-strip the 7980s, then because the two chips had so many commonalities, it was entirely possible that production of these 2 generations had varied with time and that the drop in yield of way over-spec 7980s might not be a temporary thing.

After looking at options I've decided to amend my order slightly. I'm sticking with the Asus Rampage VI Omega board and all the other components, but I've swapped out the 7980XE and replaced it with an i9-7920X, pre-binned (i.e. tested to and guaranteed good) for 4.7GHz. The 7920 drops the core count from 18 to 12 and the thread count from 36 to 24, but, crucially, it's still has 44 PCIe Lanes... and [at stock clocks] a slightly lower TDP of 140 Watts...

With luck all the outstanding parts will turn up some time early next week and the fun times can begin. I do hope to be keeping a photo journal of the build and will post that to the WC forum, but I'll add a link in this thread for anyone who enters here and is interested.

Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this discussion.
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post #23 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-02-2019, 05:47 AM
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Hi,
It's a lot of cores to cool most would be using a water chiller to get higher clocks 5.0... on any skylake-x chips.

Some cheat and don't use all core too and highest clocks are only on the *two best cores with the rest at what ever they will do 4.5....

Been some impressive 99..x scores but again these are nature or chiller cooling and even som LN2 cooling people.
Here's a good one
https://www.overclock.net/forum/1468...e-vi-apex.html

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post #24 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-04-2019, 02:52 AM - Thread Starter
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ThrashZone, that's an interesting idea. I hadn't considered it up to this point, but I would certainly be willing to entertain that in the event that the current configuration struggles.

The biggest issue I might have is sheer space requirements. I'm already going with a large, double-width case (a Thermaltake WP-200, because CaseLabs shut down just before I tried to place my order) and I literally don't have any room to spare. However, at this point in time the rough layout of the WP200 is intended to be:-

1. Windowed Side:
Motherboard and mobo related components
AquaComputer Aquero [front mounted]
Media Card Reader [front mounted]
1 x EKWB CE560 Radiator [roof mounted, servicing the CPU]

2. Non-Windowed Side:-
3 x Pump/Adapter/Reservoir Combos
2 x EKWB CE560 Radiators [1 x roof mounted, 1 x side mounted, servicing the "upper" of 2 2080Ti GPUs connected via nvLink]
2 x Optical Drives

3. Plinth
PSU
2 x EKWB CE560 Radiators [side mounted, servicing the "lower" of 2 2080Ti GPUs]

There is a [narrow] chance that I might come across a chiller unit small enough to fit inside the "non-windowed" side of the case. I can easily make up mounting/fixing brackets and I can use one of the unused PSU cover plates to surface-mount an IEC power adapter that allows me to plug an external power lead in to the rear and run and internal mains cable to the unit for power. As long as I can find a way to safely exhaust the heat I should be able to make that work...

On the other hand... I currently have a 6-Core i7 4960XE overclocked from stock 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz running in to a dedicated EKWB 240 radiator and which under high load gives me max temperatures at 44-45 centigrade. If I can stick to something like that, I'll be happy.


The rest is a bit long-winded, but:-

Going from a 2x120mm-fan radiator to a 4x140mm-fan radiator dedicated to the CPU should give me some headroom... Now, I appreciate that TDP indicators go out the window the moment we overclock, but the TDP for my 4960XE is quoted as 130 watts and the 7920XE is listed as 140 watts...

Not being remotely clever, I just use simple math:-

130 watts in to 2 x 120mm fans = 65 watts heat cooling per fan... yielding 44-45 centigrade under load. This in a room which is typically in the range 22-24 ambient, so 20-23 centigrade above ambient - under load.
140 watts in to 4 x 140mm fans = 35 watts heat cooling per fan... yielding TBD centigrade under load. And in theory I should get considerably more cooling from the larger fans, since the area covered by a 140mm fan is roughly 136% of that covered by a 120mm fan...

Similarly, the 2080Ti's are rated at 250 Watts TDP each:-

250 Watts in to 8 x 140mm fans = 31.25 watts heat cooling per fan [each 2080Ti is getting a pair of CE560 radiators, in series].

5 radiators = 20 primary cooling fans. I bought Noctua NF-P14S Redux 120 Fans, rated at 19.6 dbA at 1200rpm... but of course I'm configuring them in to 5 fan channels using the AquaComputer Aquero Fan Controller. Each radiator will have an in-line temperature sensor on the output port and I can use the temperatures each sensor reads as input to set fan speeds via curves configured in the Aquero.

Currently, my concerns are:-

1. Can the Aquero help me keep fan noise down, given that I'm going from 5 120mm fans in my current machine to 20 140mm fans in the new one?

2. With a steel case, 5 radiators, 3 cooling circuits and sundry odds, can I keep the weight of this monster down so that I can still move the thing?

Time will tell...
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Hi,
If using a chiller doubt one needs more than two rads and last I read common mistake is running fans since water is chilled already ambient would be hotter than chilled already.
Have to watch dew point though because of condensation
I believe the 1/2 hp is a sweet spot
http://www.performance-pcs.com/water-chillers

Frankly I would go 9940x instead.

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GPU
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In a bit of a departure to the topics covered in posts to date, a word on coolant. Day before yesterday I telephoned Mayhems UK (the manufacturer) to take some advice on coolant and to order both fluids and cleaning kits. The person I spoke with (either the owner, managing partner, or a senior person there) was absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, the most helpful and enthusiastic person I've dealt with on this build so far...

Not only did we quickly and easily sort out the precise configuration and volumes of coolant required, but what followed was pretty much a masterclass in customer service.

In no particular order, we covered: how to select the best possible water blocks for components; the relative merits of acrylic, copper and "other" block materials; how to connect up coolant circuits to ensure that convection works with pumps and not against them; the importance of pressure-testing circuits before adding coolant; the perils of quick-release and so-called "non-drip" systems; the value of using gaskets to insulate radiators and cooling fans from cases, to cut down on vibration and case noise.

All in all, not only did I come away with everything I needed and more, I picked up a lot of really helpful advice and assistance on the way. Right down to me being asked where I was sourcing my CPU water block from, then being told, "Any problems getting hold of one of those, give me a call. I know the guy who owns that company - I can drop him a line and pull rank for you..."

I guess I'm just getting old and cynical, but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I've experienced customer service like this.

And: everything turned up this morning via courier, on time, expertly packed for transit.

One-hundred-and-eleven out of ten... five gold stars, etc, etc... Properly epic service.

Chuffed.
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So what was bought there is no list

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...sers-club.html

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Motherboard
ASUS x299 TUF Mark 2
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
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EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
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Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
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2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
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In a bit of a departure to the topics covered in posts to date, a word on coolant. Day before yesterday I telephoned Mayhems UK (the manufacturer) to take some advice on coolant and to order both fluids and cleaning kits. The person I spoke with (either the owner, managing partner, or a senior person there) was absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, the most helpful and enthusiastic person I've dealt with on this build so far...

Not only did we quickly and easily sort out the precise configuration and volumes of coolant required, but what followed was pretty much a masterclass in customer service.

In no particular order, we covered: how to select the best possible water blocks for components; the relative merits of acrylic, copper and "other" block materials; how to connect up coolant circuits to ensure that convection works with pumps and not against them; the importance of pressure-testing circuits before adding coolant; the perils of quick-release and so-called "non-drip" systems; the value of using gaskets to insulate radiators and cooling fans from cases, to cut down on vibration and case noise.

All in all, not only did I come away with everything I needed and more, I picked up a lot of really helpful advice and assistance on the way. Right down to me being asked where I was sourcing my CPU water block from, then being told, "Any problems getting hold of one of those, give me a call. I know the guy who owns that company - I can drop him a line and pull rank for you..."

I guess I'm just getting old and cynical, but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I've experienced customer service like this.

And: everything turned up this morning via courier, on time, expertly packed for transit.

One-hundred-and-eleven out of ten... five gold stars, etc, etc... Properly epic service.

Chuffed.
YW ... Thank you for contacting us. It was good to hear a happy customer. p.s its mick the owner of the company and whom you were talking to. Cannot wait to see your build pics.

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Rampage VI Extreme Omega - Monoblock Announced

Everyone,

Whilst I can't vouch for the product quality (I have never used Bitspower before), I have literally just received an email from one of the Bitspower folk, to advise me that they have just released a monoblock for the Extreme Omega board.

Here is a link to the product on the Bitspower web site.

If anyone gets one and tries it out, please post results here for reference!

https://shop.bitspower.com/index.php...33&search=x299

Thank you...
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Omega has the best air cooled vrm's yet and has been said to never go above 60c so a mono block would be silly to add unless just going for a cooler look.

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