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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
EK rads wise PE or EX only
Be aware ek rads do have an additional collar with o-ring that other rads do not have
Pretty much another possible leak besides the actual hose fitting.

But yeah thought it was lite weight rads but cases are what they are

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post #12 of 39 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 06:45 AM
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I do recall HWL rads being very well known, now it does seem they have a few to choose from, any particular series?
HWL arguably makes the best rads on the market. Having used just about everything out there right now, HWL is by far my first choice. But, be aware that they run slightly wide and you need to be sure they will fit where you are intending on using them.

As far as series, it depends on your goal. The GTS is a slim 30mm rad designed for stellar low noise performance, and is comparable in performance to top name 45mm rads out there. The SR2 also has top notch low noise performance, but will scale more than the GTS, but is 60mm thick. The GTX and GTR are their all out performers, but only at high fan speeds - in other words, if you aren't looking to have your rig sound like a vacuum cleaner, the GTS and SR2 are better choices as they offer better performance at low/mid fan speeds.

Avoid the L series entirely. They are an oem piece that are very restrictive and do not perform on par with the Nemesis or Black Ice lines.

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That's another thing i have to think about, maybe a bigger case with more airflow will be way cheaper and have a similar improvement on temps. My case wont really allow anything bigger. Maybe id focus on the 280 for CPU alone and leave the GPU alone, is not bad at the moment but i know once i introduce a fron rad the temps will increase.
I wouldn't go for anything less than dual 360's for a 9900k and 2080TI. I have 2x 360's and a 8700k and 1080TI. I'm reaching a delta T of 10°C with a full blown OC under gaming loads. And 8.5°C with my GPU undervolted. The 9900k is about 70-150W during gaming loads, but the RTX2080TI draws 300-380W depending on the max power limit of you model.

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I wouldn't go for anything less than dual 360's for a 9900k and 2080TI. I have 2x 360's and a 8700k and 1080TI. I'm reaching a delta T of 10°C with a full blown OC under gaming loads. And 8.5°C with my GPU undervolted. The 9900k is about 70-150W during gaming loads, but the RTX2080TI draws 300-380W depending on the max power limit of you model.
Yep, just did a little quick loop configuration with EK for the setup and its suggested at minimum two 280's, their 45mm ones which hold a lot more liquid than a single slim 360, so its clear lol. It calculated 600w for the system.

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Hi,
45mm is the CE series mediocre at best
I have a couple and 2-gtx-240's are about the same as 2-CE280's

SR2 is really where you want to be you can get discount using OCN55 discount code
Presidents days is soon they usually have holiday coupons matter of fact most items are better bought through them instead of EK directly
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X-Flow rad saves the hassle of tilting pc around when filling/draining...just a really long tube in one direction.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
45mm is the CE series mediocre at best
I have a couple and 2-gtx-240's are about the same as 2-CE280's

SR2 is really where you want to be you can get discount using OCN55 discount code
Presidents days is soon they usually have holiday coupons matter of fact most items are better bought through them instead of EK directly
http://www.performance-pcs.com/hardw...tor-280mm.html

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...upport-47.html

So the ratings in the radiator specs are usually bs or not? It seems EK radiators dont have the best rep. I was configuring something on PCS website using the Nemesis LS series so a LS360 would suffice for 1000w and LS240(rated at 650w) for the GPU, at least is what their spec sheets say. Sound about right?

This all considering a new case of course. How does one go about calculating whether you need one two or three pumps? I'm going now for the d5 pwm xres140 from ek rated at 1500 l/ph and 3.2m of head pressure.
My goes is the same cool GPU and CPU.

Thanks.

Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
HWL arguably makes the best rads on the market. Having used just about everything out there right now, HWL is by far my first choice. But, be aware that they run slightly wide and you need to be sure they will fit where you are intending on using them.

As far as series, it depends on your goal. The GTS is a slim 30mm rad designed for stellar low noise performance, and is comparable in performance to top name 45mm rads out there. The SR2 also has top notch low noise performance, but will scale more than the GTS, but is 60mm thick. The GTX and GTR are their all out performers, but only at high fan speeds - in other words, if you aren't looking to have your rig sound like a vacuum cleaner, the GTS and SR2 are better choices as they offer better performance at low/mid fan speeds.

Avoid the L series entirely. They are an oem piece that are very restrictive and do not perform on par with the Nemesis or Black Ice lines.
Lol, i laugh because its like you read my mind, already had an LS360 and LS240 in the cart solely for configuration purposes not to actually buy. I do much rather have a quiet PC, i understand with OCing there will be noise but the lower end of the spectrum is what i want. GTS it is, so would 2x240s work? They're rated at 750W each, dont want to bump to 280's as i already have decent 120mm fans.

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So the ratings in the radiator specs are usually bs or not? It seems EK radiators dont have the best rep. I was configuring something on PCS website using the Nemesis LS series so a LS360 would suffice for 1000w and LS240(rated at 650w) for the GPU, at least is what their spec sheets say. Sound about right?



This all considering a new case of course. How does one go about calculating whether you need one two or three pumps? I'm going now for the d5 pwm xres140 from ek rated at 1500 l/ph and 3.2m of head pressure.

My goes is the same cool GPU and CPU.



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You shouldn’t need 3 pumps. 2 is the most you’ll need. More head is better the more restrictive your loop is.

Most specs are very generous and not totally accurate. Take them with a grain of salt. Go by user reviews and people who compare and test them rather then what the website says.

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You can make 2 240s work if you throw enough fan power at them for sure, it just depends on what your temperature and silence goals are. For For a standard 2 blocks and 2 rads loop double pumps are already just for redundancy.

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You can make 2 240s work if you throw enough fan power at them for sure, it just depends on what your temperature and silence goals are. For For a standard 2 blocks and 2 rads loop double pumps are already just for redundancy.
So 2x240s will need what a push/pull config or we're talking good SP fans? I'm really sticking to one pump. Trying to keep it as simple and quiet, while not aiming for a quiet loop. I just didn't see the different in wattage capacity from 280 to 240's in the line of rad im choosing. As mentioned taking specs lightly but for the sake of reference, the 240's cool 650W and the 280 would work for 700w. I'm not speaking of 360's as they were out of stock for now(GTS line).

What exactly will work? I understand we're cooling some of the hottest pieces of hardware but i really dont think i need 60mm thick cores(best of the best names out there) to cool this CPU or GPUs, there're AIO's cooling these already(not great but keeping sub 90c). Just trying to weigh my options here as it seems the deeper you get the deeper its implied you need to get lol. I knowits all based on goals as it was mentioned. So 70's for temp while pushing the hardware hard would be my goal, right off the top of my head. GPU isn't overclocked so only cpu.

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