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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-19-2019, 11:04 PM - Thread Starter
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Got my feet wet; looking for advise on future loop expansion.

Been a long time since I've signed into the OCN, but I need y'all's expertise on improving my loop for a future expansion to a 360x40 rad.

Waiting on Primochill to stock the candy purple 360x40s before purchasing an additional rad and install my Heatkiller Pro IV and complete my setup. Cooled the GPU first because EVGA hybrid pumps are way too noisy.

Really enjoyed the challenge of building and have already done two fills and a drain (just distilled w/ primochill sysprep) thanks to poorly seating my GPU block the first go around. Meshify S2 helped in just being a heck of a sweet case as well as binge watching JayzTwoCents videos.

Would appreciate constructive feedback on better tubing runs and radiator placement suggestions for both the 240x40 in the pic and the 360x40 that is incoming. (EG: 360x40 have fittings at the back of case for a short run from the GPU to the CPU)


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Primochill fittings and tubing.
Watercool Heatkiller Pro (not installed currently)

All fans are Noctua NF-12 chromaxs. I love these fans.

For those curious, running Heaven at 1440p DX11, ultra quality, extreme tessellation netted an equilibrium temperature of 68C after 15 mins with +140 core and +1300 memory and running my pump and fans at 100%. Original config of card would hit about 75C, but with A LOT more noise.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 07:10 AM
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Well, your loop is going to change once you get the other rad and CPU block in there, but based off your setup now I'd get a couple 90 deg rotary fittings and maybe even a couple 45 deg rotary fittings to clean up the tube runs, particularly off the GPU block. Swapping in and out ports on the rad would also allow you to hide the tube that runs from the rad to the reservoir, and untangle the tube from the GPU to the rad from the AIO tubing.

I would also lower the 240 rad, as the position it's in right now isn't doing you any favors for bleeding the loop. I think you'll need to do this anyway to get the 360 rad in the top (assuming that's your plan).

Side note: 68C is very high for a GPU in a custom loop, even a small loop like yours. You sure you got the block seated correctly on the GPU? Do you have a way to monitor water temps?

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+1300 memory?

or you mean, +650 = 1300?
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Hi,
Ideally for draining the front rad would need to be flipped so the in-out ports are on the bottom not the top but I'm sure you've already found out how bad they are on top



I personally am not a fan of rotary fitting they are nothing but an addition leak possibility.
Straight barb compression fitting are just fine.


I would remove the vertical gpu mount and just connect it to the board

Flow
Pump outlet/ front rad/ gpu/ cpu/ top rad/ vrm block/ back to pump inlet.
So yeah add a vrm block it's a good transition from top rad to reservoir

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definitely agree about rotaries.

the only ones I've not have fail over the years are BP or Enzotech. Everthing else? Any amount of pressure on the internal o-ring causes a leak. Yes, even swiftech's super fancy ones.

Now a days I try to use only one rotary piece in a run, it's all that's needed to benefit from them.
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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
definitely agree about rotaries.



the only ones I've not have fail over the years are BP or Enzotech. Everthing else? Any amount of pressure on the internal o-ring causes a leak. Yes, even swiftech's super fancy ones.



Now a days I try to use only one rotary piece in a run, it's all that's needed to benefit from them.


Now I’m concerned about my rotaries, I have 2 in my loop. One connecting my CPU block to the MB I do Not want that to fail.

Something else I’ll have to rethink when I redo my loop. Both are EK and with my luck with EK gear recently I’m sure it’ll fail on me.

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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
definitely agree about rotaries.

the only ones I've not have fail over the years are BP or Enzotech. Everthing else? Any amount of pressure on the internal o-ring causes a leak. Yes, even swiftech's super fancy ones.

Now a days I try to use only one rotary piece in a run, it's all that's needed to benefit from them.
I've had really good luck with the Monsoon and BP. I haven't tried the Enzotech. I have a had a Swiftech leak after a while, and had two of the five EK I used leak within a couple of months. I try to simply stick with the BP since I have some with 5+ years of continuous service including 5-6 rebuilds, and they seem as solid as the day I bought them.

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*Snipped*
Thanks for the reply, wheatpaste! The 240 definitely isn't in its final resting place and will be lowered once I get the 360 for up top, I'm actually surprised how well it bled and found getting enough water in the loop was more difficult with the rad where it was. (Water would backflow into the rad and res on pump power off and the rad-res tube would be empty and the gpu-rad tube half empty) Water temp monitoring is something I need to figure out, infrared temp gauge is much less convenient than checking a screen. Saturating the loop with heat results in the external tube temp being 98F (36.6C) which should put the water temp around the 40C mark.

I'm definitely working on the temps with GPU still, as high as they seem, they're improved over the EVGA AIO solution that was originally on the card.

Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
+1300 memory?

or you mean, +650 = 1300?
Hi Skupples, I have it set to an additional 1300mhz on memory in Precision X1.

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Hi, *snipped*
Thanks ThrashZone! Appreciate the input. That first drain to reseat my gpu block the first time was definitely interesting, but I did get drained what I needed and the rad didn't present an issue. Full drain and I definitely realize why it should be flipped around.
Not sold on the vertical GPU mount 100% myself, but wanted to give it a shot to "fill out" the case. This is my first ATX build in seven years and it just felt... empty. (And why I still run a SFX power supply in an ATX case... Corsair SF600 Platinum)


Attached a screen grab of X1 after 30 mins of playing Far Cry New Dawn for a non-synthetic measurement. I was running fans at ~1100rpm and the pump at 70% PWM which was between 2900 and 3100 rpms. I still think I may need to reseat the block again, but on the otherhand, this can ran 70C with the EVGA pump unit at 100% pwm duty and the same Noctua NF-12 Chromax running at ~1300rpm. (But with MUCH less noise. I can hear my coil whine again!)
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Hi,
Most want to see that expensive water block that is what vertical mounts are all about
Personally I wouldn't use one as I said before draining is a pain
Besides piping is easier with typical mount with front rad flipped.

One want to hit the cpu first usually because it's the hottest item
With a 2080ti it too will be pretty hot so gpu first then cpu will work great.

Not sure what soft tubing size you ended up with but 3/8-5/8" is ideal for sharp turns eliminating any use of rotary fittings.

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I've had really good luck with the Monsoon and BP. I haven't tried the Enzotech. I have a had a Swiftech leak after a while, and had two of the five EK I used leak within a couple of months. I try to simply stick with the BP since I have some with 5+ years of continuous service including 5-6 rebuilds, and they seem as solid as the day I bought them.
this this THIS

YES, we all know BP are stupid expensive, but I still have every BP fitting I've ever purchased, 50/50 rotary, or not. They're all still as tight as the day I bought em. I just replaced all the primary O-rings after 5 years, but that was out of an extreme abundance of caution. Compare this to my throwing away ALL other rotary that aren't enzo male/male rotary, or 90 degree compression fitting rotary.

1300... that's insane... is that a normal memory OC on 20 series? that would be a 2.6ghz bump for a 10 series & below card...

Oh I see, it's a pure 1300mhz bump..

10 series & below, you get 2x what you input, so 650 to get 1300mhz bump.
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