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New to watercooling. Looking for reliable resources.

So I am collecting part to do my first loop in my secondary rig and then plan to do my daily driver if all goes well.
Just looking for some good links to more occult resources. I have already read all the EK blogs and guides as well as the usual suspect tech channels etc.

I am without a doubt going with hard tubing for both builds.
I have a praxxis wetbench to play around with stuff and some soft tubing and fittings for that already.
I have a mandrel kit for the tubing I have chosen to use 12/16mm PETG from EK.
I have the proper heat gun.

Are there any more less obvious tools I may require?

Really any advice for a first timer would be great. Budget is not a problem.
Plan to do a build log over here just would like to avoid hitting snags. I'll post the litany of stuff I already have acquired in a few(it's a lot...).

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water cooling it is not about any particular company, but certain companies make good products.
I will start with EK as that is the tubing that you plan to use EK is a mid grade company at best.
when considering any rotary fitting, only bitspower or barrow make decent rotary fittings.
I like swifttech and koolance for compression fittings.
as for reservoirs their are several good ones, water cool, aquacomputers, bitspower, and monsoon.
when it comes to D5 water pumps I like, swiftech, XSPC, water cool, and aquacomputers.
their are lots of radiators but I like, hardware labs, swiftech, koolance, bitspower, and alpha cool UT45's and thicker.
now for the water blocks, I like the water cool, heat killer line of water blocks(this will always be my first choice), than XSPC, swiftech, or bitspower(being the last choice).
last but not least almost any company, can make a decent T fitting, or extension fitting. that being said, it does not really matter what company these type of fittings are purchased from. as long as they have no rotary sections to them they will be fine.
well I hope this helps, and I will be looking forward to seeing your build completed.

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Quote: Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post
water cooling it is not about any particular company, but certain companies make good products.
I will start with EK as that is the tubing that you plan to use EK is a mid grade company at best.
when considering any rotary fitting, only bitspower or barrow make decent rotary fittings.
I like swifttech and koolance for compression fittings.
as for reservoirs their are several good ones, water cool, aquacomputers, bitspower, and monsoon.
when it comes to D5 water pumps I like, swiftech, XSPC, water cool, and aquacomputers.
their are lots of radiators but I like, hardware labs, swiftech, koolance, bitspower, and alpha cool UT45's and thicker.
now for the water blocks, I like the water cool, heat killer line of water blocks(this will always be my first choice), than XSPC, swiftech, or bitspower(being the last choice).
last but not least almost any company, can make a decent T fitting, or extension fitting. that being said, it does not really matter what company these type of fittings are purchased from. as long as they have no rotary sections to them they will be fine.
well I hope this helps, and I will be looking forward to seeing your build completed.
Agreed. I would add Bitspower and Barrow into the compression fitting discussion, as well.

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Quote: Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post
water cooling it is not about any particular company, but certain companies make good products.
I will start with EK as that is the tubing that you plan to use EK is a mid grade company at best.
when considering any rotary fitting, only bitspower or barrow make decent rotary fittings.
I like swifttech and koolance for compression fittings.
as for reservoirs their are several good ones, water cool, aquacomputers, bitspower, and monsoon.
when it comes to D5 water pumps I like, swiftech, XSPC, water cool, and aquacomputers.
their are lots of radiators but I like, hardware labs, swiftech, koolance, bitspower, and alpha cool UT45's and thicker.
now for the water blocks, I like the water cool, heat killer line of water blocks(this will always be my first choice), than XSPC, swiftech, or bitspower(being the last choice).
last but not least almost any company, can make a decent T fitting, or extension fitting. that being said, it does not really matter what company these type of fittings are purchased from. as long as they have no rotary sections to them they will be fine.
well I hope this helps, and I will be looking forward to seeing your build completed.
So mixing fittings isn't a big deal then? I have various fittings via EK but I noticed they lack certain fitting options that would make building easier. I have heard very good things about Barrow that they are basically like Bitspower but with no logo and cheaper.
My blocks and res/pump combo are pretty locked into being EK as I already have them and they all support asus aura which is my goal.
The radiators I have various ones laying around. Crossflow XSPCs ultrathin and the normal size (forgot the naming) as well as crossflow Alphacools(thin and medium). I have an EK rad for the wet bench that I plan to just leave installed in it for future.
I bought a custom build from a system integrator in the past and the hardwarelabs rads they used smelled something foul so I avoided them.


In regard to resources I was more looking for guides on things like measuring for tubing runs, how to make a drain port, things like that. A meta guide would be amazing if that exists.
Much appreciated and I plan to do a build log so I can get input along the way from the vets here.

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Agreed. I would add Bitspower and Barrow into the compression fitting discussion, as well.
Thanks mate!


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Oh I should mention that the first build is going into an Inwin 303C I have lying around in the box and the second build which is my main build will be going in the h700i I am currently using unless I find something I like more.
First build is AMD/AMD to learn on cheaper stuff and the second is Intel/Nvidia my 9900k in a Formula XI with an MSI Gaming X Trio 2080Ti (still waiting on an EK block for that) which is my daily driver.

Edit: I still had time to return the EK PETG through amazon prime with a hit of only 4$ so I am going to send that back. I went with the Bitspower 12mm/16mm as it will fit the EK compression fittings I have for the first build.
After looking at other fittings I will probably be using Barrow for the second build in regard to fitting as I really like the look and they dont have a logo or anything.


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Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
Agreed. I would add Bitspower and Barrow into the compression fitting discussion, as well.
I so nearly just bought a batch of Barrow compression fittings but ended up getting some monsoon instead as they was a bit cheaper :/

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So mixing fittings isn't a big deal then?

In regard to resources I was more looking for guides on things like measuring for tubing runs, how to make a drain port, things like that. A meta guide would be amazing if that exists.
Much appreciated and I plan to do a build log so I can get input along the way from the vets here.
Mixing fittings is no problem at all as long as you have the I/D and O/D correct for the pipe you want to use as they all use the G1/4 thread irc.
The main thing you want to think about is metals... which metals you want to use that have the least amount of corrosion when mixed. Mine is all copper and brass, just simple distilled water and a silver kill coil, then you need to think about high flow vs low flow, and also for safety my pump is always on pull going into the res so the loop is negative pressure in case for leaks.
This loop has been closed for nearly 2 years now and is just about showing signs for a 5c temp increase since the start.
I will be stripping it all down and giving it a good clean after this weekend. so they really need little maintenance if you plan well.

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I so nearly just bought a batch of Barrow compression fittings but ended up getting some monsoon instead as they was a bit cheaper :/
Nothing wrong with that. My whole rig has been Monsoon fittings for years. Very high quality and well designed. Only issue I have ever had was with the white fittings, and that was that the paint started to chip a bit on the 5-6th (lol) time that they were used. Just keep in mind that their sizing is a little larger than others, so their angles and rotaries tend to look a lot cleaner with the fittings.

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Nothing wrong with that. My whole rig has been Monsoon fittings for years. Very high quality and well designed. Only issue I have ever had was with the white fittings, and that was that the paint started to chip a bit on the 5-6th (lol) time that they were used. Just keep in mind that their sizing is a little larger than others, so their angles and rotaries tend to look a lot cleaner with the fittings.
Well it's better than using jubilee clips which I was using before :/ , or O rings/clamps as you americans say ? our Orings are the rubber seals on the compression fittings

Edit* After this next clean out I might even get rid of the silver coil and go with some Mayhems Biocide+ Inhibitor+ as im reading a lot of good things about these products. I have been out of the loop for a long while.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TwIsTeD-SoLdIeR View Post
I so nearly just bought a batch of Barrow compression fittings but ended up getting some monsoon instead as they was a bit cheaper :/


Mixing fittings is no problem at all as long as you have the I/D and O/D correct for the pipe you want to use as they all use the G1/4 thread irc.
The main thing you want to think about is metals... which metals you want to use that have the least amount of corrosion when mixed. Mine is all copper and brass, just simple distilled water and a silver kill coil, then you need to think about high flow vs low flow, and also for safety my pump is always on pull going into the res so the loop is negative pressure in case for leaks.
This loop has been closed for nearly 2 years now and is just about showing signs for a 5c temp increase since the start.
I will be stripping it all down and giving it a good clean after this weekend. so they really need little maintenance if you plan well.
That's good to know because some of the EK options for fittings are really ugly and their rotary are really derpy looking to say the least. The first build I have the runs planned pretty short and simple by using the crossflow radiators. The h700i is going to be much more complicated.

Yep no aluminum in any of my parts. Everything is copper, copper with nickel plating(blocks, EK Vector) or brass(namely fittings).

I have a couple bottles of the cryofuel from EK. 2 clear and 2 cloud white here. I was looking at other brands but it seems kinda hit or miss for uniformity besides mayhem. I will probably source a premix from them. I know distilled > premix for performance but I am balancing aesthetics as well so don't mind the hit.
Do you have any good videos etc. about flow? Also my board has a temp and flow sensors, what would you recommend getting to have those function? Or perhaps another solution, I'd love to be able to monitor both easily but some of the inline things I have seen are aluminum and lots of complaints of leak points so I opted to stay away until I can get an answer from a person with experience with them.

Thanks a lot by the way, all of you.

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Nothing wrong with that. My whole rig has been Monsoon fittings for years. Very high quality and well designed. Only issue I have ever had was with the white fittings, and that was that the paint started to chip a bit on the 5-6th (lol) time that they were used. Just keep in mind that their sizing is a little larger than others, so their angles and rotaries tend to look a lot cleaner with the fittings.
Noted. I want white fittings for the second build which is my pride and joy so I think I am going to start checking those out now.


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That's good to know because some of the EK options for fittings are really ugly and their rotary are really derpy looking to say the least. The first build I have the runs planned pretty short and simple by using the crossflow radiators. The h700i is going to be much more complicated.

Yep no aluminum in any of my parts. Everything is copper, copper with nickel plating(blocks, EK Vector) or brass(namely fittings).

I have a couple bottles of the cryofuel from EK. 2 clear and 2 cloud white here. I was looking at other brands but it seems kinda hit or miss for uniformity besides mayhem. I will probably source a premix from them. I know distilled > premix for performance but I am balancing aesthetics as well so don't mind the hit.
Do you have any good videos etc. about flow? Also my board has a temp and flow sensors, what would you recommend getting to have those function? Or perhaps another solution, I'd love to be able to monitor both easily but some of the inline things I have seen are aluminum and lots of complaints of leak points so I opted to stay away until I can get an answer from a person with experience with them.

Thanks a lot by the way, all of you.



Noted. I want white fittings for the second build which is my pride and joy so I think I am going to start checking those out now.
Look at Aquacomputer for flow and temp sensors, I have 4 of the Calitemp senors and 5 of the other temp senors in my loop. Also Aquasuite and an Aquaero are the best way to monitor everything.

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