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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-30-2019, 07:02 AM - Thread Starter
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Question about block pressure drop

I was wondering if someone could help me out with head pressure.

I have the photon 270 D5 vario, which is apparently 3.7 max pressure.

Here are the parts I purchased and their restriction:
EK Velocity - .72/1gpm
Ek Vecter - .82/gpm? (previous gen fc-1080 block is .82)
Nemesis 420 GTS - 1.0? (360 gts is .91)
Maximus XI Formula with Crosschill waterblock - ?

I'm also thinking about adding the Alphacool st30 280 so I can have more silent operation. Pressure drop for that it .30 / 1gpm.

Three things I'm not sure of:
1. Is this too much restriction for my pump? I don't want to be running it at 5, was hoping for 3 or 4.
2. Do I need the extra 280 for silent operation? I will be overclocking my CPU, but not my GPU.
3. What is the restriction of the Crosschill 3 waterblock on the Maximus XI formula board? I can't find any information about it anywhere.

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The D5 can easily pump through all of that. I have a D5 for 2 radiators, 1 CPU block and 2 GPU blocks. I run mine at 100% all the time (PWM) since it's basically silent. I have to turn off all my fans to hear it. A 420 (with push/pull fans) is probably enough for CPU OC + GPU no OC, but adding a 280 wouldn't hurt if you want it as quiet as possible.

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Hi,
Only block pressure drop I've ever seen is from a clogged block usually cpu because they have very fine thin cooling fins
EK being the worst because they have a razor blade water jet that focuses water through a slot which is only 3/16"
That slot if any thing is in the fluid will clog it very quickly.

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Thanks for the information!
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Update:

I have purchased everything that i'm getting for my new PC:

Nemesis 420 GTS
Nemesis 420 GTS X-flow
EKWB Vertex Intel waterblock
EKWB Vector RTX 2080 waterblock
Asus Maximus XI Formula VRM waterblock


I added all of the parts restriction up, and it almost equals the maximum head pressure of the XSPC Photon D5 Vario (3.7m) that I have. Does this mean that I need another pump? Or am I misunderstanding how all of this works?

Thanks for your help.
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Be aware depending on the routing connecting all of that, specially with the VRM block, can lead to sone very tight bends.
Had the same issue myself connecting it all.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
Be aware depending on the routing connecting all of that, specially with the VRM block, can lead to sone very tight bends.
Had the same issue myself connecting it all.
I figured that might be the case. I was worried that one pump might not be enough. What pump are you using for yours?

Edit: sorry, just saw your signature. Dual DDC, nice. I suppose I should probably spring for a dual pump solution as well so that I don't have to worry about anything.

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I had a cpu block clogged with oxidation and plasticiser and I barely got any flow thru my system. Once cleaned, the flow was improved. The flow was so bad that I never got the air out from the radiators. The fittings and tubes comming out from the GPU was extremely hot while the rest of the system was cool. I use the alphacool eisblock which is very restrictive and once gunk builds up it will limit the flow alot. I used the xspc raystorm before and it is alot less restrictive so the gunk in the cpu block didn't affect the flow so much. I will change the cpu block as the eisblock is one of the most restricitive ones on the market.

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Quote: Originally Posted by reaper829 View Post
I figured that might be the case. I was worried that one pump might not be enough. What pump are you using for yours?



Edit: sorry, just saw your signature. Dual DDC, nice. I suppose I should probably spring for a dual pump solution as well so that I don't have to worry about anything.


I’m running a pair of Dual DDC’s now. My QDC’s add a lot of restriction.

I’ve always gone dual pumps, the redundancy is great.
Might want to look at adding a flow meter if you can as well, and a temp sensor for the water.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
I’m running a pair of Dual DDC’s now. My QDC’s add a lot of restriction.

I’ve always gone dual pumps, the redundancy is great.
Might want to look at adding a flow meter if you can as well, and a temp sensor for the water.
Yeah, I have one of the barrowch oled flow meters, and then I picked up 2 pass-through temperature sensors. I have the Maximus XI Formula, so I should be able to output both temperatures through the built-in screen on the motherboard.
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