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Yeah I'll probably stick with NT-H1 for now, I did send Thermal Grizzly and email with these pictures so hopefully they will reply if this is normal or not.
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A few have said soak the kryonaut tubes in hot water lol that alone can give you an idea how bad it is just in the tube.

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A few have said soak the kryonaut tubes in hot water lol that alone can give you an idea how bad it is just in the tube.
Well that explains a lot!
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It seems to be an issue with a lot of the highest performance pastes. I recently got some CM Mastergel Maker. And while mine was fine, there were a few reviews that reported them being delivered just entirely dried out in the tube.

I assume these high performance pastes just have a higher density of conductive particles, thus are more prone to drying out.
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i wanted to buy kryonaut myself, but heard horror stories, that thing scratches heatsinks, dies and what not. not to mention its max operating temp is 80c, above that temp paste dries out quickly and become less effective. i go with ek ectotherm and see how it goes. really wanted to try kryonaut since everyone praise it, well almost everyone but aint gonna risk.
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Yeah I've got a large tube of ectotherm not used any of it just a small tube that came with mono block but ruled it out maybe prematurely seeing the issue then was clogged ek razor blade jet plate because of bad batch of ek kryofuel premix not poor thermal paste application...

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Hi,
Yeah I've got a large tube of ectotherm not used any of it just a small tube that came with mono block but ruled it out maybe prematurely seeing the issue then was clogged ek razor blade jet plate because of bad batch of ek kryofuel premix not poor thermal paste application...
I'm sure Ectotherm is another TIM simply rebranded. Any idea what it is? They were rebranding GC Extreme prior to the release of this.

Yeah....the little girl hentai avatar is really creeping me out....
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i wanted to buy kryonaut myself, but heard horror stories, that thing scratches heatsinks, dies and what not. not to mention its max operating temp is 80c, above that temp paste dries out quickly and become less effective. i go with ek ectotherm and see how it goes. really wanted to try kryonaut since everyone praise it, well almost everyone but aint gonna risk.
How much time are you planning on spending above 80C? I have an overclocked 9900K and the only times I get over 80C for any sustained period of time is running benchmarks or stress tests.

All pastes dry out over time and eventually need to be reapplied. Kryonaut at least supposedly has minimal degradation below 80C which is where you probably spend 99.99% of your time.

As for scratching heatsinks, I'm not sure how that's possible. I use the paste myself and it's similar consistency to MX-4 or a number of other non-conductive pastes. It's not abrasive and it won't scratch anything.
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Hi,
A few have said soak the kryonaut tubes in hot water lol that alone can give you an idea how bad it is just in the tube.
I've had no issues applying Kryonaut straight out of the tube. It's plenty thin to spread around using their applicator or another tool. That said, yes their instructions do tell you to use hot water to warm up the sealed container if you want it thinner.

My application method with it which has worked well is to spread a thin layer and then put a little extra in the center to fill in any bare spots from rubbing as I apply the block. Yes this is more paste than I need, but you really can't use too much paste. Any extra just gets squeezed out the sides once it's tightened down (though obviously don't go crazy and make a huge mess).
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How much time are you planning on spending above 80C? I have an overclocked 9900K and the only times I get over 80C for any sustained period of time is running benchmarks or stress tests.

All pastes dry out over time and eventually need to be reapplied. Kryonaut at least supposedly has minimal degradation below 80C which is where you probably spend 99.99% of your time.

As for scratching heatsinks, I'm not sure how that's possible. I use the paste myself and it's similar consistency to MX-4 or a number of other non-conductive pastes. It's not abrasive and it won't scratch anything.

im not planing to run it at all, in my case. imo this paste is designed for water cooled builds, not regular stock cooled gpu's or air cooled cpu's. still, the headroom you have with this paste aint great imo, cause its degradation is fast on 80c or above, and if u overclock cpu like 9900k, not sure if u can keep it under 80c under full load. for gaming, ofc u can slip under this 80c mark np.

i was doing some digging on google and found this:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/th...sive.18827970/

you can see there what happend with 8700k die after paste was applied, thats some horror **** right there.

i had another user on youtube replaying to one of my posts, telling me in 20 years of his work with pc's he never experienced that TIM can actually scratch his heat sink and IHS like krayonaut did in his case. there is something in this, not just user ''errors''.
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There's no 9900K on the planet that can stay under 80C full load (excluding sub-ambient cooling). 90-100C under max stress test load is typical at around 1.30-1.33v which is the usual 24/7 OC territory. I'll also point out that just about any paste is going to dry out at very high temps. Kryonaut isn't alone there, and probably fares about as well as the competition.

As for scratching, yeah I dunno. It looks like something was going on based on that thread. I know that I've applied it twice now to my CPU/AIO and both were completely unscathed after cleaning. If I were to get scratches/scuffs like that I'd probably clean it up with some very fine grit wetsanding on a flat surface. They can't be very deep at all.
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