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post #31 of 69 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 02:14 AM
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I just had this confirmed to me by EK support.


Quote: Originally Posted by EK Support
The R&D guys checked in details the things again and unfortunately, the temps that were displayed in the graphs are correct and this is sort of expected for the monoblock that has the older Supremacy core design (fins), so the best possible option would be to use the Velocity block on the CPU as it has the new core design and that could have made the temps bit lower than with the monoblock.

Now I am off to research the differences between the supremacy and velocity, to see if I can modify my monoblock to improve performance.

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This... TDP is what it needs to take care off

Btw with a monoblock you always gonna have higher cpu temps than a cpu block thats just how it works.


Cpu cooling is the most tedious thing to cool on any loop. You can have the best loop ever and the cpu is going to drag.


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This... TDP is what it needs to take care off

Btw with a monoblock you always gonna have higher cpu temps than a cpu block thats just how it works.

Cpu cooling is the most tedious thing to cool on any loop. You can have the best loop ever and the cpu is going to drag.
Yeah, of course temps are going to be higher, though looking at other results from custom loops and CPU used etc, im not doing too bad.

Regards the advice from EK, looking at comparative reviews the velocity does not show any significant gains compared to its predecessor.

Probably why the advice from EK was carefully worded to say the following

Quote: Originally Posted by EK Support
snip......as the older Supremacy core design (fins), so the best possible option would be to use the Velocity block on the CPU as it has the new core design and that could have made the temps bit lower than with the monoblock.

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Saw this today:
https://hothardware.com/reviews/all-...-with-maingear
3900X PBO 3 4.13GHz on liquid (probably Bitspower Touchaqua kit) = 69.57°C in CB R20
Power draw per Ryzen master = 12% of 1200W so around 144W
EDC current draw per Ryzen master = 26% of 600A which means ~156A

TDC Current draw per Ryzen master = 18% of 540A which means ~97A

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What websites/blogs/forums other than this one should I follow if I'm still interested in comparative waterblock performance for zen 2? Haven't heard much discussion on this topic in a few weeks but I'm still waiting for the 16-core chip to come out to finalize things.

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Just for some useful information I checked what kind of temperature my setup would get when running fully topped out 3800X with a Alphacool Eisblock XPX.
Mounted in the regular orientation with intake to the left and outflow on the right. That makes the channels run up and down vertically on the block crossing the dies on their short sides up and down. Water coming in just between the IO-die & core-chiplet.

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I pushed full RPM on all fans to reach 28C water temperature with 24-25C Ambient.
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So I am in need of a new cpu waterblockfor my 3900x. Which should I go with and what is the best site to buy from these days? I'd like to get on amazon if possible.

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Quote: Originally Posted by BeeDeeEff View Post
What websites/blogs/forums other than this one should I follow if I'm still interested in comparative waterblock performance for zen 2? Haven't heard much discussion on this topic in a few weeks but I'm still waiting for the 16-core chip to come out to finalize things.
Yeah... i'm stuck on the same one here.
Using Google you find almost nothing. Seems like all those cheap AiO's totally killed the last bit of surviving Waterblocks reviews.

Seems like the "Watercool HEATKILLER® IV PRO" is the thing to go. (Difference Pro vs Basic: https://watercool.de/wbb/index.php/T...-basic-vs-Pro/)
Price difference is like 10.-

Other things that fit AM4 would be:
Bykski AMD AM4 CPU-RYZEN-X-MK-S
XSPC RayStorm Neo WaterBlock
Aquacomputer cuplex kryos NEXT AM4
Alphacool Eisblock XPX

Though i'm not sure others than the Bykski and XSPC RayStorm have a big enough groundplate to fill the whole CPU....


Anything i missed?
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Seems like the "Watercool HEATKILLER® IV PRO" is the thing to go. (Difference Pro vs Basic: https://watercool.de/wbb/index.php/T...-basic-vs-Pro/)

Anything i missed?
Nope, you listed the only block that really matters. But seriously, Watercool makes amazing gear. EK's cheap crap cannot compare to anything in the HeatKiller line. Once you hold one in your hands, you'll understand. They might not be as widely available than other supposedly 'top' brands (lulz), their quality is LEAGUES above stuff like EK and Corsair. I'd order directly from them if you can't find them anywhere else. If they can ship DHL to Canada in a decent time frame, and not let Canada Customs ruin it, they can ship anywhere.

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